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Message 73476 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 0:00:50 UTC

I recently added World Community Grid and Einstein@home to my BOINC manager, and now Rosetta@home does not download new tasks.

I tried flushing all of the Rosetta@home files and re-downloading them, but Rosetta@home will not even download the files again.

Can someone please help me out on this issue?
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Message 73480 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 11:02:23 UTC - in response to Message 73476.  

I recently added World Community Grid and Einstein@home to my BOINC manager, and now Rosetta@home does not download new tasks.

I tried flushing all of the Rosetta@home files and re-downloading them, but Rosetta@home will not even download the files again.

Can someone please help me out on this issue?


From the tiny bit of info you've provided I'd guess BOINC is busy running tasks from the newly added projects. The newer versions of the BOINC client will run workunits from one or two projects exclusively while it figures out how much time work units from those particular projects will typically require. Eventually it will reintegrate rosetta back into the mix. How long this takes varies depending on numerous factors and the application of patience is the only treatment (or possibly upgrading to a later version of BOINC 7 but lets not jump the gun).

First though, you'll need to check your event log (from the BOINC manager advanced menu). Is BOINC requesting tasks from rosetta but being denied them? Or is BOINC having problems connecting with rosetta? Copy and paste lines from your event log and we'll help you interpret them.

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Message 73483 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 14:57:47 UTC

There is alot of this in the event log:

"7/18/2012 3:37:30 PM | rosetta@home | update requested by user
7/18/2012 3:37:34 PM | rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
7/18/2012 3:37:34 PM | rosetta@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
7/18/2012 3:37:35 PM | rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
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Message 73484 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 15:17:02 UTC - in response to Message 73483.  
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There is alot of this in the event log:

"7/18/2012 3:37:30 PM | rosetta@home | update requested by user
7/18/2012 3:37:34 PM | rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
7/18/2012 3:37:34 PM | rosetta@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
7/18/2012 3:37:35 PM | rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
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You have an ATI-based video card. Rosetta is not a GPU enabled project. No worries.

Edit: I remembered I took the steps in this thread to stop GPU requests as Rosetta is the only project I run on BOINC.
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Message 73485 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 16:14:31 UTC

Now, will the cc_config.xml stop requesting GPU work for even my Milkyway@home program? Because Milkyway@home does do GPU work.
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Message 73486 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 17:07:32 UTC - in response to Message 73485.  

Now, will the cc_config.xml stop requesting GPU work for even my Milkyway@home program? Because Milkyway@home does do GPU work.

Yes. So if you want to use your GPU for Milkyway (or any other BOINC project), don't do it.
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Message 73487 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 17:41:50 UTC

Then how do I fix the issue? Or do I just drop Rosetta@home?
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Message 73488 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:15:42 UTC - in response to Message 73487.  

Then how do I fix the issue? Or do I just drop Rosetta@home?


There is no issue to be honest. Rosetta is happily churning away using your CPU. GPU work is for your video card. Rosetta doesn't have GPU work.
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Message 73489 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:19:54 UTC - in response to Message 73488.  

Then how do I fix the issue? Or do I just drop Rosetta@home?


There is no issue to be honest. Rosetta is happily churning away using your CPU. GPU work is for your video card. Rosetta doesn't have GPU work.

Yes, but I have another project that uses my GPU. And from what I have gathered here, the solution that you have posted to use for the cc_config.xml will not let my Milkway@Home project use my GPU.
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Message 73490 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:24:53 UTC - in response to Message 73487.  
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Then how do I fix the issue? Or do I just drop Rosetta@home?


What issue? After each fruitless request BOINC will delay the next request by ever increasing amounts of time until it is making only one request every 24 hours. Unless you manually intervene by hitting the update button which will restart the cycle.(At least it does on earlier versions of BOINC).

edited 'cause you and Polian posted while I typed (slowly):

Don't use the cc_config.xml file posted. You don't need it. One request per day won't swamp the servers and you can ignore that log message.
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Message 73491 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:29:19 UTC

I don't think you guys are understanding me.

I have 3 projects. World Community Grid, Rosetta@home, and Milkyway@home.

World Community Grid and Rosetta@home use CPU, and Milkyway@home uses GPU.

From what you guys have posted, the cc_config.xml fix that Polian posted will not allow any of my BOINC projects to use the GPU, but Milkway@home does.

Link, has said that the cc_config.xml that Polian posted will not allow ANY BOINC projects to use the GPU.

So now I am asking, how do I fix the issue of Rosetta@home trying to use the GPU, without denying Milkyway@home the use of the GPU.
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Message 73492 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:31:51 UTC - in response to Message 73491.  

I don't think you guys are understanding me.

I have 3 projects. World Community Grid, Rosetta@home, and Milkyway@home.

World Community Grid and Rosetta@home use CPU, and Milkyway@home uses GPU.

From what you guys have posted, the cc_config.xml fix that Polian posted will not allow any of my BOINC projects to use the GPU, but Milkway@home does.

Link, has said that the cc_config.xml that Polian posted will not allow ANY BOINC projects to use the GPU.

So now I am asking, how do I fix the issue of Rosetta@home trying to use the GPU, without denying Milkyway@home the use of the GPU.


Yeah if you are using your GPU for other projects don't use the xml config file. What others are saying is don't do anything. Just ignore the GPU messages for Rosetta. That's a non-issue, to be honest.
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Message 73493 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:32:20 UTC

So, will it just fix itself eventually then?
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Message 73494 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:33:35 UTC - in response to Message 73493.  

So, will it just fix itself eventually then?


It'll try to get GPU work for Rosetta, but since none exists, it obviously won't get any. It's not broken, therefore there is no "fix".
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Message 73495 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:34:40 UTC

How do I ask it to not get GPU work for Rosetta@home?
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Message 73496 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:35:21 UTC - in response to Message 73495.  

How do I ask it to not get GPU work for Rosetta@home?


You can't.
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Message 73497 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:37:30 UTC - in response to Message 73493.  

So, will it just fix itself eventually then?

There is nothing to fix. Just ignore the messages. If you don't hit the update button for Rosetta, they will appear just 1-2 times a day, if you do, they will come few times quite short after each other than again 1-2 times a day. No problem.
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Message 73498 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:40:20 UTC

Alright, thanks Link. I'll leave that Update button alone then.

Thanks everyone for the help!
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Message 73499 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 18:51:40 UTC - in response to Message 73495.  

How do I ask it to not get GPU work for Rosetta@home?


You will never get any GPU work from rosetta because they don't have and most likely will never have an app that can run on the GPU. BOINC doesn't know this though and won't assume that just because it can't get GPU tasks today rosetta might not have them tomorrow. Thus the daily requests. Projects that do have GPU apps will have a line or two in their project specific preferences page allowing you to opt in or opt out of crunching GPU tasks and possibly other types of tasks. For example, at WCG I believe the default settings will send you tasks from any/all of the subprojects but no GPU tasks unless you specifically give permission.

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Message 73500 - Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 19:32:51 UTC - in response to Message 73499.  

because they don't have and most likely will never have an app that can run on the GPU.


Never say never :-P

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