Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta Server Thinks WU Won't Finish in Time
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Richard Turner Send message Joined: 5 May 09 Posts: 3 Credit: 425,865 RAC: 215 |
I keep getting '0 new tasks' messages in BOINC 6.6.36: 17/06/2009 13:16:43 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. 17/06/2009 13:16:43 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for GPU 17/06/2009 13:16:48 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks <snip> 17/06/2009 13:20:53 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 13:20:53 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for GPU 17/06/2009 13:20:58 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks <snip> 17/06/2009 13:25:03 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 13:25:03 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for GPU 17/06/2009 13:25:08 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks <snip> 17/06/2009 13:29:14 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 13:29:14 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for GPU 17/06/2009 13:29:19 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 17/06/2009 13:33:24 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 13:33:24 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for CPU 17/06/2009 13:33:29 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 17/06/2009 13:33:29 rosetta@home Message from server: No work sent 17/06/2009 13:33:29 rosetta@home Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 95.0% of time, BOINC on 99.2% of that 17/06/2009 13:37:34 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 13:37:34 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for GPU 17/06/2009 13:37:39 rosetta@home Scheduler <snip> 17/06/2009 13:41:44 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 13:41:44 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for GPU 17/06/2009 13:41:49 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 17/06/2009 13:45:54 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 13:45:54 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for CPU 17/06/2009 13:45:59 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 17/06/2009 13:45:59 rosetta@home Message from server: No work sent 17/06/2009 13:45:59 rosetta@home Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 95.0% of time, BOINC on 99.2% of that 17/06/2009 13:50:04 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 13:50:04 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for CPU 17/06/2009 13:50:09 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 17/06/2009 13:50:09 rosetta@home Message from server: No work sent <snip> 17/06/2009 13:54:29 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 13:54:29 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for CPU 17/06/2009 13:54:34 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 17/06/2009 14:01:40 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 14:01:40 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for CPU 17/06/2009 14:01:45 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 17/06/2009 14:01:45 rosetta@home Message from server: No work sent 17/06/2009 14:01:45 rosetta@home Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 95.0% of time, BOINC on 99.2% of that 17/06/2009 14:05:50 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 14:05:50 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for CPU 17/06/2009 14:05:55 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 17/06/2009 14:12:00 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 14:12:00 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for GPU 17/06/2009 14:12:05 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks <snip> 17/06/2009 14:36:41 rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 17/06/2009 14:36:41 rosetta@home Requesting new tasks for CPU <snip> 17/06/2009 14:36:46 rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 17/06/2009 14:36:46 rosetta@home Message from server: No work sent 17/06/2009 14:36:46 rosetta@home Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 95.0% of time, BOINC on 99.2% of that I have snipped attempts to get work from SETI (nothing is available there). The difference is I am getting Rosetta work on other computers, and I have not been getting it on this computer for well over a day. The Rosetta server does not seem to think I'll finish a 3 hour WU before the deadline. This is not correct - weighting of Rosetta (on this machine) is low: 10 out of a total of 170, or currently because of the SETI situation, out of 120. Because of this problem I zeroed debts yesterday morning - to see if it made any difference - but with no effect on this issue. The computer is a dual core, and is one about 16 hours a day (probably more). This does not make sense. An equally rated project (ie. 10) has been running on one of the cores for the majority of the time (even though the deadline for that is May 2010) and there is absolutely no danger of it not finishing within a few weeks. Can anyone advise, please? |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 815 Credit: 1,812,737 RAC: 0 |
I keep getting '0 new tasks' messages in BOINC 6.6.36: I am guessing that you have one CPDN task running from the deadline mentioned. Sadly, the later versions of BOINC have a large number of issues in the work fetch and work scheduling areas that the developers are not interested in addressing ... this is one of them ... you will have to wait till the CPDN task gets farther along or suspend it ... if you suspend it you will likely get an immediate download of work from one or more projects ... you can then unsuspend the CPDN task and let it get its share ... |
Richard Turner Send message Joined: 5 May 09 Posts: 3 Credit: 425,865 RAC: 215 |
Thanks for the reply. Is it BOINC that decides whether the Rosetta server sends work? Or the Rosetta server? A genuine question. |
Hammeh Send message Joined: 11 Nov 08 Posts: 63 Credit: 211,283 RAC: 0 |
I'm guessing that the BOINC client does some calculations on CPU time which is available on your computer and reports the data to the rosetta server during the scheduler request for new work. It is then the rosetta server that decides the tasks will not be finished in time and gives the error. |
dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,680,204 RAC: 9,884 |
I'm guessing that the BOINC client does some calculations on CPU time which is available on your computer and reports the data to the rosetta server during the scheduler request for new work. It is then the rosetta server that decides the tasks will not be finished in time and gives the error. I believe you're right - my understanding is that the server decides based on the info BOINC provides as below: 17/06/2009 14:36:46 rosetta@home Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 95.0% of time, BOINC on 99.2% of that I presume it must also take into account either the average run-time for reported work, or the run-time setting on your rosetta settings page. |
Hammeh Send message Joined: 11 Nov 08 Posts: 63 Credit: 211,283 RAC: 0 |
I would also assume that the project time duration correction factor plays a part in this error. Also, please remember that on the requests which are asking for GPU work, they will always recieve 0 new tasks because rosetta has no GPU applications or tasks to send. |
Richard Turner Send message Joined: 5 May 09 Posts: 3 Credit: 425,865 RAC: 215 |
What you guys are saying sort of agrees with my understanding. There is something not working properly somewhere, for sure. I now have a second machine displaying the same message. It is another dual core running Rosetta and ClimatePrediction with equal weighting. BOINC has now downloaded two CP WUs for completion middle of next year, which it is chugging away processing (one on each of the processors), but I am getting the same message w.r.t. Rosetta ("won't finish in time"). Neither CP WUs are running high priority. |
Hammeh Send message Joined: 11 Nov 08 Posts: 63 Credit: 211,283 RAC: 0 |
There is not fix that I can see, other than suspending the CPDN project tasks and requesting new rosetta ones. This is a bug with the scheduler that has been pointed out to the developers many times. |
DJStarfox Send message Joined: 19 Jul 07 Posts: 145 Credit: 1,250,162 RAC: 0 |
Your other option is to downgrade BOINC to version 6.4.7 until the 6.6 series is stable enough and addresses this issue. |
Hammeh Send message Joined: 11 Nov 08 Posts: 63 Credit: 211,283 RAC: 0 |
Yes - agreed with above. If you are not running any GPU (CUDA) applications then I would downgrade to 6.4.7 if you are having problems. All of the 6.6.x clients seems to have major problems still. |
gerlik Send message Joined: 19 Nov 06 Posts: 10 Credit: 122,074 RAC: 0 |
Yes - agreed with above. If you are not running any GPU (CUDA) applications then I would downgrade to 6.4.7 if you are having problems. All of the 6.6.x clients seems to have major problems still. Work with 6.45 & cant download/upload: error --> server probably down (since saturday) |
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