Message boards : Number crunching : Any plans for a rosetta cuda client
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NUTNDUN Send message Joined: 31 Dec 08 Posts: 11 Credit: 1,047,811 RAC: 0 |
Hi gang, I may have missed an already posted question regarding this topic and if I did I apologize. Are there any plans in the near future to have a gpu client like seti for rosetta and the boinc project? |
Michael G.R. Send message Joined: 11 Nov 05 Posts: 264 Credit: 11,247,510 RAC: 0 |
This question has been asked a lot in the past, but I don't remember seeing an answer to it from the project in the context of the new GPGPUs that should be easiest to code for and that should have more high-precision capabilities for scientific math. |
dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,821,902 RAC: 13,431 |
Hi gang, There is a quote from one of the guys at the BL - the problem with GPGPU for Rosetta is that for Rosetta the project is the code and not the results - the results are the test of the code (although there have been some very interesting/useful results produced) because accurate protein modelling/design software doesn't currently exist. That means that the code is constantly being modified, and not just by the Baker Lab... Having said that, I would think if someone would offer to port a stable part of the code to another architecture (OpenGL?) then i'm sure it'd be gladly accepted. |
Chilean Send message Joined: 16 Oct 05 Posts: 711 Credit: 26,694,507 RAC: 0 |
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mikey Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 9,208,737 RAC: 2,882 |
Damn! Folding uses ATI cards |
Chilean Send message Joined: 16 Oct 05 Posts: 711 Credit: 26,694,507 RAC: 0 |
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NUTNDUN Send message Joined: 31 Dec 08 Posts: 11 Credit: 1,047,811 RAC: 0 |
I did folding at home when it first started, when the work units were alot smaller too. I still like folding but right now I like rosetta because it is quick and easy to setup with boinc and my work computers have no trouble connecting. With f@h I couldn't get the clients to connect on the work pc's. Boinc connects fine. I just recently updated my two home boxes to quad cores but my old athlon xp 1800 wouldn't cut the mustard for folding anymore. I would love to see the cuda client put to use on the rosetta project. |
mikey Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 9,208,737 RAC: 2,882 |
Damn! I am not even sure what Folding is looking for, other than that they are "folding" proteins. BUT they do let my new video cards crunch, and I will NOT do Seti again, so there is little choice right now. Yes if other projects let us use the video cards my cards would move, but for right now it is the only option, for me. |
mikey Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 9,208,737 RAC: 2,882 |
I did folding at home when it first started, when the work units were alot smaller too. I still like folding but right now I like rosetta because it is quick and easy to setup with boinc and my work computers have no trouble connecting. I do not do folding with the cpu just the video card, although I am not sure there is any difference in the end. The dual core cpu is actually doing ABC@home while the video card crunches for Folding. Yes if Rosetta came up with a CUDA version, I would be crunching for it instead. |
dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,821,902 RAC: 13,431 |
I meant OpenCL ;) |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 815 Credit: 1,812,737 RAC: 0 |
GPU Grid is doing folding of some form or another, and a pair of other things ... only works on Nvida cards and then it really only works well on cards at about the 9800GT level or better ... though some have been doing work with slower cards. The only bad thing is that it also puts a pretty heavy hit on the CPU to run each GPU core (a GTX295 card has two "cores" and so you can have 2 tasks in flight at the same time) ... More interesting the i7 seems to tolerate the GPU Grid load better with only a 7% load (costing me 21% to support 3 cores) while on a straight 4 core Q9300 I lost 22% CPU for one GPU ... A lower "cost" application is promised ... still waiting ... Something to my mind that is almost better is what is looking like a more stable Mini-Rosetta application that I have been running in Ralph ... hopefully coming soon to a computer near you ... |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2130 Credit: 41,424,155 RAC: 14,205 |
The only bad thing is that it also puts a pretty heavy hit on the CPU to run each GPU core (a GTX295 card has two "cores" and so you can have 2 tasks in flight at the same time) ... I tried folding@home through my ATI card and I found that too about the the CPU hit. It was so bad I gave up before the first WU was completed. Impractical for the machine I had at the time and I'm not keen to revisit it even with my new system with an uprated card as well as processor. |
NUTNDUN Send message Joined: 31 Dec 08 Posts: 11 Credit: 1,047,811 RAC: 0 |
I tried doing folding@home on my 9800gt while my q9550 did 4 wu of rosetta but it never failed that one or the other would fail. Now I took folding completely off my machine, added another hard drive for raid setup and reinstalled the os and I am still getting compute errors. I have no idea what is going on but hopefully I can get it worked out soon. |
The_Bad_Penguin Send message Joined: 5 Jun 06 Posts: 2751 Credit: 4,271,025 RAC: 0 |
my q6600 has 4 cores for Boinc, and there is very little cpu overhead used by my nVidia 9600 gso crunching for Folding@Home. They play VERY nice together... |
Chilean Send message Joined: 16 Oct 05 Posts: 711 Credit: 26,694,507 RAC: 0 |
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The_Bad_Penguin Send message Joined: 5 Jun 06 Posts: 2751 Credit: 4,271,025 RAC: 0 |
dude, i don't know if even SkyNet could run crysis, lol... |
NUTNDUN Send message Joined: 31 Dec 08 Posts: 11 Credit: 1,047,811 RAC: 0 |
dude, i don't know if even SkyNet could run crysis, lol... Once I get the stability issues check out and everything working right I may have another go with running folding on the gpu again while running rosetta on the four cores. My temps sensors are stuck on two of the cores at 41c, they work if it gets above there. I may rma the cpu back to newegg. |
The_Bad_Penguin Send message Joined: 5 Jun 06 Posts: 2751 Credit: 4,271,025 RAC: 0 |
apologies in advance if this is somewhat off-topic, but i also think it is somewhat on-topic, as the "limitations" of the PS3's Cell BE architecture may be somewhat analogous to those of gpu's: PlayStation 3 tackles black hole vibrations - Consoles capable of running simulations that rival supercomputer
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 815 Credit: 1,812,737 RAC: 0 |
apologies in advance if this is somewhat off-topic, but i also think it is somewhat on-topic, as the "limitations" of the PS3's Cell BE architecture may be somewhat analogous to those of gpu's: Depending on the card and GPU architecture the types and accuracy of floating point can also be an issue. |
The_Bad_Penguin Send message Joined: 5 Jun 06 Posts: 2751 Credit: 4,271,025 RAC: 0 |
my limited understanding is that one of the primary reasons there may be difficulties in porting Rosie to PS3 (and possibly, gpu?) is the limited amount of available ram... but i could also see where fp concerns could arise. |
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