i have a athlon 2800+ with 512mb ram, i see i can take a semperon 3400 in my current mobo.

i gain 200 mhz in speed but lose half the l2 cache size.

would i gain lose or break even if i got this processor?
or should i just up my memory by a few modules and stick with this current processor?

anything in the new athlon 64x2 series would require me to get a whole new system and software from the looks of it.

comments anyone?

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I have run similar computers in the past...

For Rosie, cache is king, and physical memory (to avoid accessing the swap file) is a close second.

If you only stand to gain 200MHz of processor speed, but loose half the L2 cache, I would say:

Stick with the Athlon 2800+

...just my opinion :D

Cheers

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Rosie, Rosie, she's our gal,
If she can't do it, no one shall!

i have a athlon 2800+ with 512mb ram, i see i can take a semperon 3400 in my current mobo.

i gain 200 mhz in speed but lose half the l2 cache size.

would i gain lose or break even if i got this processor?
or should i just up my memory by a few modules and stick with this current processor?

anything in the new athlon 64x2 series would require me to get a whole new system and software from the looks of it.

comments anyone?

I would forget the cpu and buy memory. 1gig ddr memory is only $50 new and 1gig drr2 memory is maybe $80. To bad I just gave a bunch away last Friday.
ps
You can get new PCs cheap too. Dell Inspiron 530 with intel Duo Processor E6550 (4MB L2 Cache,2.33GHz,1333 FSB) $610 with out monitor. The same system with AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 3800 Processor is $400 and the AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 5000 Processor is $550.

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Jmarks

i have a athlon 2800+ with 512mb ram, i see i can take a semperon 3400 in my current mobo.

i gain 200 mhz in speed but lose half the l2 cache size.

would i gain lose or break even if i got this processor?
or should i just up my memory by a few modules and stick with this current processor?

anything in the new athlon 64x2 series would require me to get a whole new system and software from the looks of it.

comments anyone?

I concur. Keep the Athlon--better chip. A memory upgrade to 1GB should help overall. If you memory sticks are in adjacent pairs, you may be able to enable dual-channel DDR, which will also help performance.

Probably not good for Belgium, but... maybe your family state-side could purchase, and eBay'ing the monitor would cover the shipping costs

From Slickdeals:

Dell SB has Vostro 200 Desktop with 19" LCD and a choice of Windows XP Home or Windows Vista Home Basic for $389 with free shipping. Thanks mikeopp2

Specs:

Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2160 (1.80GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 800FSB)
Genuine Windows XP Home or Windows Vista Home Basic
Dell 19 inch Widescreen E198WFP Analog Flat Panel Monitor
1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz - 2DIMMs
80GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache
Single Drive: 16X DVD-ROM Drive
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100
Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
1 Year Limited Hardware Warranty with Next Business Day On-Site Service

ps
You can get new PCs cheap too. Dell Inspiron 530 with intel Duo Processor E6550 (4MB L2 Cache,2.33GHz,1333 FSB) $610 with out monitor. The same system with AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 3800 Processor is $400 and the AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 5000 Processor is $550.

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ - thats socket 754 I guess?

There are AMD 64 3700+ out for that socket, also with 1024 km L2 cache, dont know if you are using eBay, but I found them there:

3700+@eBay

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http://www.MIAteam.eu

A new MBO plus dual core AMD 6000+ with a GB of DDR2 RAM shouldn't cost more than $350. That'd whip along :)

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A new MBO plus dual core AMD 6000+ with a GB of DDR2 RAM shouldn't cost more than $350. That'd whip along :)

Make sure you get a new Power Supply also if you do the above.

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Jmarks

bah...80 euros and rising plus an additional 20 for shipping. forget it
might be cheap..but the shipping is not worth it.
btw...is that new? i can't tell.

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ - thats socket 754 I guess?

There are AMD 64 3700+ out for that socket, also with 1024 km L2 cache, dont know if you are using eBay, but I found them there:

3700+@eBay

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i have a athlon 2800+ with 512mb ram, i see i can take a semperon 3400 in my current mobo.

i gain 200 mhz in speed but lose half the l2 cache size.

would i gain lose or break even if i got this processor?
or should i just up my memory by a few modules and stick with this current processor?

anything in the new athlon 64x2 series would require me to get a whole new system and software from the looks of it.

comments anyone?

I would forget the cpu and buy memory. 1gig ddr memory is only $50 new and 1gig drr2 memory is maybe $80. To bad I just gave a bunch away last Friday.
ps
You can get new PCs cheap too. Dell Inspiron 530 with intel Duo Processor E6550 (4MB L2 Cache,2.33GHz,1333 FSB) $610 with out monitor. The same system with AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 3800 Processor is $400 and the AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 5000 Processor is $550.

maybe these PC's are worth importing to europe at this low, weak, falling and bankrupt USD ;) maybe i can buy a second PC just for crunching, only to find a place and a way my parrents will allow a second :P, energie aint cheap these days

i have a athlon 2800+ with 512mb ram, i see i can take a semperon 3400 in my current mobo.

i gain 200 mhz in speed but lose half the l2 cache size.

would i gain lose or break even if i got this processor?
or should i just up my memory by a few modules and stick with this current processor?

anything in the new athlon 64x2 series would require me to get a whole new system and software from the looks of it.

comments anyone?

I would forget the cpu and buy memory. 1gig ddr memory is only $50 new and 1gig drr2 memory is maybe $80. To bad I just gave a bunch away last Friday.
ps
You can get new PCs cheap too. Dell Inspiron 530 with intel Duo Processor E6550 (4MB L2 Cache,2.33GHz,1333 FSB) $610 with out monitor. The same system with AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 3800 Processor is $400 and the AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core 5000 Processor is $550.

maybe these PC's are worth importing to europe at this low, weak, falling and bankrupt USD ;) maybe i can buy a second PC just for crunching, only to find a place and a way my parrents will allow a second :P, energie aint cheap these days

just make sure you have a dual voltage power supply and yeah energy, i was attempting to compute my usage and wondered if my math was correct. if it is this is a expensive thing to maintain.

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EDIT--> They just raised the price by nearly 50% to $13.95

For those who need some very cheap DDR2 RAM, and can wait for a rebate, you can order up to five (5) sticks:

Courtesy of SlickDeals:

HP-COMPAQ - 1GB PC2-5300 DDR2-667-DIMM MEM SBY

Semi-repost, but Cheaper than before.

Product Description

HP memory - 1 GB - DIMM 240-pin - DDR II
Storage Capacity 1 GB
Upgrade Type System specific
Technology DDR II SDRAM
Form Factor DIMM 240-pin
Memory Speed 667 MHz ( PC2-5300 )

49.50
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bah...80 euros and rising plus an additional 20 for shipping. forget it
might be cheap..but the shipping is not worth it.
btw...is that new? i can't tell.

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ - thats socket 754 I guess?

There are AMD 64 3700+ out for that socket, also with 1024 km L2 cache, dont know if you are using eBay, but I found them there:

3700+@eBay

No, its a used CPU... price is pretty high compared to new AMD CPUs, but there are still people out there paying such prices for these CPUs, that you cant get anymore in shops.
F.e. my sockel A Athlon 3200+ / Barton Core is around 90 € used @ eBay - back in 2004 I payed 125 € NEW !! Insane, I should just sell it now ;)
Also I was looking for a dual core for socket 939 , like 4400+ or 4600+, but they reach around 200 € on eBay - also used - I mean im not crazy, for 200 € I could get already a AM2 6000+ and a cheap mainboard !

Back to topic: I wouldnt replace the 2800+ with the 3400+ sempron, you will probably lose computing speed there. If your mainboard allows it, overclock it.

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http://www.MIAteam.eu

bah...80 euros and rising plus an additional 20 for shipping. forget it
might be cheap..but the shipping is not worth it.
btw...is that new? i can't tell.

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ - thats socket 754 I guess?

There are AMD 64 3700+ out for that socket, also with 1024 km L2 cache, dont know if you are using eBay, but I found them there:

3700+@eBay

No, its a used CPU... price is pretty high compared to new AMD CPUs, but there are still people out there paying such prices for these CPUs, that you cant get anymore in shops.
F.e. my sockel A Athlon 3200+ / Barton Core is around 90 € used @ eBay - back in 2004 I payed 125 € NEW !! Insane, I should just sell it now ;)
Also I was looking for a dual core for socket 939 , like 4400+ or 4600+, but they reach around 200 € on eBay - also used - I mean im not crazy, for 200 € I could get already a AM2 6000+ and a cheap mainboard !

Back to topic: I wouldnt replace the 2800+ with the 3400+ sempron, you will probably lose computing speed there. If your mainboard allows it, overclock it.

tried overclocking once and the system locked up.
never tried it again.

on this dual channel memory, whats the difference between that and single channel memory? can a stick of dual channel work alongside a stick of single channel? and this dual channel memory is capable of working with my existing mobo? i just might go this route for awhile and then look into another cpu for this mobo after christmas.

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any one know where i can get some cheap memory for this old machine?

any one know where i can get some cheap memory for this old machine?

how many RAM slots are free on the motherboard?

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on this dual channel memory, whats the difference between that and single channel memory? can a stick of dual channel work alongside a stick of single channel? and this dual channel memory is capable of working with my existing mobo?

Dual Channel means the motherboard can read/write to two sticks of DDR memory at the same time, because there are two channels. The memory used isn't any different, you just need to put two similar sticks in to enable dual channel. Most chipsets require that the sticks are the same size, but i think there's at least one chipset out there that can make use of different sized sticks.

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any one know where i can get some cheap memory for this old machine?

zipzoomfly.com and newegg.com

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Jmarks

any one know where i can get some cheap memory for this old machine?

how many RAM slots are free on the motherboard?

got 2 more left open

any one know where i can get some cheap memory for this old machine?

zipzoomfly.com and newegg.com

thanks