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Message 31848 - Posted: 30 Nov 2006, 9:11:30 UTC

Program is not user friendly escpecially if you have times when you want to use 100% CPU and other times a different %. I thought I read somewhere that a better version was soon due? Any ideas?

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Message 31849 - Posted: 30 Nov 2006, 9:34:40 UTC - in response to Message 31848.  

Program is not user friendly escpecially if you have times when you want to use 100% CPU and other times a different %. I thought I read somewhere that a better version was soon due? Any ideas?

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A better version of BOINC or Threadmaster? The new BOINC versions allow you to use the % CPU feature, but I think they're all still alpha/beta versions as AFAIK the release version is still 5.4.11. You could try one of these versions (I assume you can get them from http://boinc.berkeley.edu or from Rom Walton's blog).

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Message 31858 - Posted: 30 Nov 2006, 14:15:34 UTC

The 5.4.11 BOINC does not utilize the CPU % threshold from the general preferences though. I think that's coming in 5.5

You might consider just using the hours of day available from the general preferences, and have your machine crunch at 100% all night. When you set that up, you then have to set BOINC Manager to "run based on preferences" for it to use them. Then when the CPU% can later be controlled in the recommended version of BOINC, you could actually use that for limited use during the time you typically use the computer, and then when you leave it for the day, you could set BOINC to "run always".

I guess I shouldn't presume here... are you noticing sluggish response from your computer if BOINC is running 100% at it's low priority while you are trying to use your computer? Or are you trying to control cooling fan noise levels? Or, what was your objective for controlling CPU % during some periods, and letting it run 100% during other time periods?
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Message 31864 - Posted: 30 Nov 2006, 16:46:58 UTC

sorry - just re-read my post and it wasn't clear - meant to say current version is 5.4.11, while some of the newer alpha/beta versions support the throttling feature, as Feet1st has stated (clearly!) ;)
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Message 31887 - Posted: 1 Dec 2006, 4:50:08 UTC - in response to Message 31886.  

The 5.4.11 BOINC does not utilize the CPU % threshold from the general preferences though. I think that's coming in 5.5

You might consider just using the hours of day available from the general preferences, and have your machine crunch at 100% all night. When you set that up, you then have to set BOINC Manager to "run based on preferences" for it to use them. Then when the CPU% can later be controlled in the recommended version of BOINC, you could actually use that for limited use during the time you typically use the computer, and then when you leave it for the day, you could set BOINC to "run always".

I guess I shouldn't presume here... are you noticing sluggish response from your computer if BOINC is running 100% at it's low priority while you are trying to use your computer? Or are you trying to control cooling fan noise levels? Or, what was your objective for controlling CPU % during some periods, and letting it run 100% during other time periods?




Sorry about the blank post. Thanks for the replies, 5.5 is what I'm waiting for it sounds like. The issue is that as I'm setting up several computers, some that are dedicated can be left as 100% duty, others I want to manually be able to adjust %cpu useage as I do other work. While its been some time since I did F@H, I recall that option being available there. Threadmaster simply isn't user friendly. Any guess as to when 5.5 will be available?
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Message 31890 - Posted: 1 Dec 2006, 9:00:56 UTC

The BOINC version system is, as I understand it, such, that 5.5.n would not be a release candidate. It is kind of like a.b.c where a is the major version, b, a smaller issue, and c a minor update. Releases where "b" is an odd number are testing versions, release versions have an even number.

5.5.10 at least is available, and so indeed, is 5.6.5, which should be a release version. 5.6.5 is said on some sites to be unstable, but others have no problem with it.

Nothing higher then 5.4.11 has made it to the "recommended release" status as yet.
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Message 31893 - Posted: 1 Dec 2006, 9:41:29 UTC

in the mean time you could set the one's that you need to reduce the CPU usage on to not do work while the computer is in use - as long as you also keep the 'keep in memory' option selected then it won't have to revert to the previous checkpoint when it resumes crunching.

To be honest I wouldn't have thought that the % throttle would make much difference for what you're after unless you're low on RAM as Rosetta will still be competing for the CPU cache which will force swapping from RAM with whatever apps you're running - I'd have thought 'don't do work while computer is in use' would be a better setting for you if you notice a performance difference between with and without Rosetta.

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Message 31894 - Posted: 1 Dec 2006, 10:04:24 UTC - in response to Message 31893.  

Being new to the project, I'm still looking at all the different options. What's the easiest way to remove threadmaster?

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Message 31933 - Posted: 2 Dec 2006, 9:01:40 UTC - in response to Message 31894.  

Solution was to set Threadmaster at 70% cpu limit. Thanks for the reply's.
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Message 32107 - Posted: 5 Dec 2006, 12:55:16 UTC - in response to Message 31890.  
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The BOINC version system is, as I understand it, such, that 5.5.n would not be a release candidate. It is kind of like a.b.c where a is the major version, b, a smaller issue, and c a minor update. Releases where "b" is an odd number are testing versions, release versions have an even number.

5.5.10 at least is available, and so indeed, is 5.6.5, which should be a release version. 5.6.5 is said on some sites to be unstable, but others have no problem with it.

Nothing higher then 5.4.11 has made it to the "recommended release" status as yet.

The v5.6.xx-release was cancelled, there was still some bugs left to fix in v5.6.5, and with the simple gui being ready for testing it was deemed better to wait for v5.8.xx.


v5.7.5 is currently latest alpha-build, with among other things an important bug-fix to the cpu-throttle-code. So, for anyone wanting to use BOINC to limit cpu-usage, use v5.7.5 or later. For earlier clients, chances are cpu-throttling will work some minutes, but suddenly cpu will sit idle all the time instead of crunching...


BTW, as for different throttling depending on time of day, and different settings depending on which day in week, this is on the planning-stage but isn't coded yet, so won't be added before after v5.8.xx has been released.
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