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Message 31725 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 19:58:36 UTC

Hi all--

I've been getting this message for the last 3 days:

11/25/2006 6:59:12 AM|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
11/25/2006 6:59:12 AM|rosetta@home|Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 99.9% of time, BOINC on 6.7% of that, this project gets 33.3% of that
11/25/2006 6:59:12 AM|rosetta@home|No work from project

11/26/2006 10:31:49 AM|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
11/26/2006 10:31:49 AM|rosetta@home|Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 99.9% of time, BOINC on 6.7% of that, this project gets 33.3% of that
11/26/2006 10:31:49 AM|rosetta@home|No work from project

11/27/2006 11:23:28 AM|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
11/27/2006 11:23:28 AM|rosetta@home|Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 99.9% of time, BOINC on 6.7% of that, this project gets 33.3% of that
11/27/2006 11:23:28 AM|rosetta@home|No work from project

This computer is on 24/7 and so is BOINC so I'm wondering why I am getting this message. On occasion I also get two BOINC icons in the taskbar. Whether this is related or not I am unsure of.

One final note. I do have equal resource share to three projects (Rosetta, RALPH, and Nanohive) but ROSETTA has been getting near 100% of that for several weeks at least (as the others have little or no work).

However, on my dual core machine; I have noticed that both cores do not crunch at the same time. For instance I just uploaded two completed WU's and downloaded only one. Ten minutes later my other core received a WU and crunched as normal.

Thanks
--Tim




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Message 31726 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 20:16:54 UTC

Hi sslickerson

I´m no expert but this "BOINC on 6.7% of that" should be much higher.

Check what other programs that are running.

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Message 31730 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 20:25:36 UTC

I have been playing Civ 4 for the past 2 weeks yet I have only had this message the last 3 days. I can certainly see that this would take up a lot of resources though. I'll check to see what the total drain is and report back here. I'm betting this is the reason though.

Tim



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Message 31738 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 21:36:15 UTC - in response to Message 31730.  

I have been playing Civ 4 for the past 2 weeks yet I have only had this message the last 3 days. I can certainly see that this would take up a lot of resources though. I'll check to see what the total drain is and report back here. I'm betting this is the reason though.

Tim



Civ4, not actually that much. It only really drains (considerably) when it's moving the AI around the board.
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Message 31740 - Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 21:58:51 UTC - in response to Message 31738.  

I have been playing Civ 4 for the past 2 weeks yet I have only had this message the last 3 days. I can certainly see that this would take up a lot of resources though. I'll check to see what the total drain is and report back here. I'm betting this is the reason though.

Tim



Civ4, not actually that much. It only really drains (considerably) when it's moving the AI around the board.


With both instances of Rosetta, Civ 4 and all the other various windows apps running I still end up with about a gig of physical memory available, so not that much indeed...



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Message 31744 - Posted: 28 Nov 2006, 0:32:36 UTC

Hey "slick", could you open your client_state.xml file and post what your time_stats section looks like? Here's mine for example:

<time_stats>
<on_frac>0.730810</on_frac>
<connected_frac>0.999974</connected_frac>
<active_frac>0.999785</active_frac>
<cpu_efficiency>0.982483</cpu_efficiency>
<last_update>1164673130.135374</last_update>
</time_stats>

I believe you will find your's to have much smaller number for the active_frac. You can end BOINC, change it, and restart. Then BOINC will have a better idea that it runs whenever you computer runs. But in the past, either that was not the case, or you ran only when no user active, or perhaps somehow the file got corrupted.

Bottom line, BOINC isn't getting more work because it believes Rosetta only runs for 33% of 6.7% of the 99.9% of the time your computer is running. So, overall, it thinks Rosetta only gets about 2% of your machine's available runtime. Basically because it thinks your computer is often powered on, but NOT running BOINC.

If you wait long enough, BOINC will adjust. ...but why wait?
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Message 31745 - Posted: 28 Nov 2006, 1:00:16 UTC - in response to Message 31744.  
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Hey "slick", could you open your client_state.xml file and post what your time_stats section looks like? Here's mine for example:

<time_stats>
<on_frac>0.730810</on_frac>
<connected_frac>0.999974</connected_frac>
<active_frac>0.999785</active_frac>
<cpu_efficiency>0.982483</cpu_efficiency>
<last_update>1164673130.135374</last_update>
</time_stats>

I believe you will find your's to have much smaller number for the active_frac. You can end BOINC, change it, and restart. Then BOINC will have a better idea that it runs whenever you computer runs. But in the past, either that was not the case, or you ran only when no user active, or perhaps somehow the file got corrupted.

Bottom line, BOINC isn't getting more work because it believes Rosetta only runs for 33% of 6.7% of the 99.9% of the time your computer is running. So, overall, it thinks Rosetta only gets about 2% of your machine's available runtime. Basically because it thinks your computer is often powered on, but NOT running BOINC.

If you wait long enough, BOINC will adjust. ...but why wait?


Thank you for the advice. You were right, I've made the correction.

Tim




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