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milw0rm Send message Joined: 10 Dec 05 Posts: 22 Credit: 6,212,738 RAC: 0 |
On 6 Jul 2007 David Baker mentioned in his journal (https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1177&nowrap=true#43296) that his manuscripts were nearing completion. Could we all have a status update on this? Thanks and best to all! |
David Baker Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 705 Credit: 559,847 RAC: 0 |
Hello, Dr. Baker! good question. the designed DNA cutting enzymes will have signals attached that direct localization to the nucleus |
David Baker Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 705 Credit: 559,847 RAC: 0 |
On 6 Jul 2007 David Baker mentioned in his journal (https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1177&nowrap=true#43296) that his manuscripts were nearing completion. Could we all have a status update on this? infact, just a minute ago I finished going over the proofs of our paper on CASP7 results with rosetta@home for the journal Proteins. today we just sent back revisions on a paper describing the exciting progress on the crystallographic phase problem made using your models. and we are waiting for the proofs for Chu's manuscript on flexible protein docking using rosetta@home for JMB. within a month or two, there will be at least 5 papers available in print and online (we will post them here) based on all of your work! |
David Baker Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 705 Credit: 559,847 RAC: 0 |
Could you tell us more about the members of the Rosetta developers conference? From what I've heard and gathered, these are other scientists that are using/enhancing and colaborating on the Rosetta algorythm... but that is all in addition to the folks in BakerLab in Seattle? this years RosettaCon was agreed by all ~100 participants (!) to have been the best ever. there were scientists from a large number of different research groups and even some visitors from the companies who license rosetta (their fees go to pay for the travel for graduate students and postdocs to rosettaCon--for example new professor Ora Furman came with two graduate students all the way from Isreal!). the science was great and many new collaborations came out of the meeting. Ian will have a prototype game ready for you to play in a week or two! |
[AF>Linux]Arnaud Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 38 Credit: 10,490 RAC: 0 |
The link to the Rotamer game doesn't exist in the last message of Dr Baker. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_misc/king_rotamer_game/ @+ Arnaud |
hugothehermit Send message Joined: 26 Sep 05 Posts: 238 Credit: 314,893 RAC: 0 |
The link to the Rotamer game doesn't exist in the last message of Dr Baker. link |
tsofka Send message Joined: 4 Jun 06 Posts: 1 Credit: 83,938 RAC: 0 |
Now Rosetta appears to be at about 56 Teraflops and I am glad to pay the electric bill for my tiny cpu's part. While all information regarding project is appreciated, have there been any home runs? I would love to see a list of accomplishments beyond the CASP runs put in a hall of fame or something. Have there been any breakthroughs? It may be I just haven't found the right spot on the site. |
agge Send message Joined: 14 Nov 06 Posts: 63 Credit: 432,341 RAC: 0 |
but the results show quite contrary--the models produced are extremely accurate! this has the potential to revolutionize how scientists determine protein 3D structures using NMR data. is this not breakthrough enough for you? i found it pretty exciting.. |
Michael G.R. Send message Joined: 11 Nov 05 Posts: 264 Credit: 11,247,510 RAC: 0 |
but the results show quite contrary--the models produced are extremely accurate! this has the potential to revolutionize how scientists determine protein 3D structures using NMR data. I think it's outstanding news! And a piece about Rosetta in the WSJ would certainly bring in some new crunchers. That'd be great too. |
rochester new york Send message Joined: 2 Jul 06 Posts: 2842 Credit: 2,020,043 RAC: 0 |
but the results show quite contrary--the models produced are extremely accurate! this has the potential to revolutionize how scientists determine protein 3D structures using NMR data. is this what we should be looking for ref:message 45458 http://www.nature.com/nm/index.html |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
but the results show quite contrary--the models produced are extremely accurate! this has the potential to revolutionize how scientists determine protein 3D structures using NMR data. what work units played a role in this research? the problem is that the names don't mean anything in their raw form, so how do we know which ones went to this research? it would be nice if there was a guide to what work units goto which research. none the less, to get published in Nature is a good thing. |
agge Send message Joined: 14 Nov 06 Posts: 63 Credit: 432,341 RAC: 0 |
I gather Nature is quite the prestigious journal to have your work published in. Congratulations Dr. Baker. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Journal of Nature An international journal, published weekly, with original, groundbreaking research spanning all of the scientific disciplines. I gather Nature is quite the prestigious journal to have your work published in. Congratulations Dr. Baker. |
Ethan Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Aug 05 Posts: 286 Credit: 9,304,700 RAC: 0 |
Here's a direct link to the journal article mentioned in DB's latest journal post: http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0703836104v1.pdf |
hugothehermit Send message Joined: 26 Sep 05 Posts: 238 Credit: 314,893 RAC: 0 |
We have made huge progress with the interactive video game version of rosetta. We are on our sixth trial so far, with many improvements being made at each step. in the most recent trials, a subset of the people who have tried have become hooked and played (competitively) for many hours in a row. our goal now is to increase the fraction of people who get really into the game by adding animations and other information at the beginning to help guide people starting to play for the first time. Would it be cheating to use PSI-BLAST, Smith-Waterman, FASTA etc.. to find probable shapes? Never having used any of the above, I would assume that searching for either a nucleotide or protein sequance would give you the correct answer for a known protein. On the science side, we are just completing two manuscripts describing landmarks in molecular biology: the design of novel enzymes (using computational protein design and rosetta@home) that catalyze chemcial reactions for which there are no naturally ocurring catalysts. (perhaps one of the experts among you can explain what this means on the "discussion" thread). I presented this work at two recent scientific meetings and people were pretty blown away. This opens the door to creating new catalysts for all sorts of chemical reactions that are difficult currently or require toxic or environmentally unfriendly reaction conditions. I will leave this to someone who truly understands, as opposed to my vague concept :) |
Michael G.R. Send message Joined: 11 Nov 05 Posts: 264 Credit: 11,247,510 RAC: 0 |
Has the Rosetta paper been published in *Nature* yet? If so, in which edition? Thanks. |
Christoph Jansen Send message Joined: 6 Jun 06 Posts: 248 Credit: 267,153 RAC: 0 |
[...] the design of novel enzymes (using computational protein design and rosetta@home) that catalyze chemcial reactions for which there are no naturally ocurring catalysts. [...] This opens the door to creating new catalysts for all sorts of chemical reactions that are difficult currently or require toxic or environmentally unfriendly reaction conditions. This is exceptional in two respects. First: It has long been a dream of chemists to be able to catalyse chemical reactions in the same efficient way nature does so using enzymes. One example that illustrates it quite impressingly is the issue of nitrogen fixation. Ammonia is one of the most important raw materials in the chemical industries. It is used directly as well as indirectly, the latter mostly a nitrates, in fertilisers or as one of the major raw materials for ammunition and explosives. If you want to make ammonia from nitrogen and hydrogen you need the so called "Haber Bosch Process", which basically means you have to heat both to 450°C (840°F) and 300 bars (4500 psi) and bring them in contact with a special catalyst. This process proved so important for agriculture (and alas also for Germany's capability of leading World War I), that Haber and Bosch got the Nobel Prize for it. A lot of plants on the other hand synthetise ammonia at ambient temperature. Building a catalyst that can rival with what plants do (or any other life form does) would mean saving a lot of energy and thus money (and today also has a lot of value in saving the emission of lots of greenhouse gases). Now, attempts to copy the "active sites" of proteins - the places that do the reactions - have long been made, with more or less success. If you have noticed that today you can do laundry at 40°C, well, it is due to one of these attempts. This resarch procuced a catalyst that activates the peroxy-compounds doing the bleaching and killing bacteria at considerably lower temperatures than before, when only heat could activate the release of oxygen from the peroxy compounds. Still, many of the results achieved to date are pretty crude even if we know the exact structure of the proteins involved. So being able to produce enzymes that can do known processes very efficiently would already be a revolution in itself. But second: To go forth claiming to have designed a wholly new protein unmatched in nature which does a reaction that has not previously been catalysed by proteins goes right beyond this goal and out to the other side: It's a milestone on the way to true catalyst design for any reaction you like - and it has the potential to revolutionize the chemical industries. There are so many implications that it is hard to even start describing them. Just think of processes in terms of the nitrogen fixation: faster, cleaner, safer, cheaper. |
dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1831 Credit: 119,603,398 RAC: 11,044 |
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Christoph Jansen Send message Joined: 6 Jun 06 Posts: 248 Credit: 267,153 RAC: 0 |
Something that fits exactly in here: I just heard that Gerhard Ertl receives the 2007 Nobel Prize for Chemistry. He is awarded the prize for his studies on understanding the mechanisms of chemical catalysis. Literally, the Nobel Price Committee awarded the price "for his studies of chemical processes on solid surfaces". Industrial scale process catalysis is mostly achieved by having a solid state catalyst on which gases or liquids can react. Take your catalytic converter in your car as an example. Understanding catalysis in terms of a chain of adsorbtion of reactants => reaction => desorbtion of products has long been very hard to do, because it is a thing that happens on the atomic scale und is very hard to observe. So what you basically do is collect a lot of data measured on your catalyst/reactant system and try to interpret these in terms of what happens on the interface between both. By understanding known catalytic reactions researchers hope to refine important processes, but also to find possible new ones. Now move your imagination away from this kind of "groping in the dark" approach. Imagine you would not only be able to understand cataylsis on the molecular scale, but that you can design it. Design it because you can exactly calculate which protein structure you need to synthetise a desired molecule from given reactants. And then all you need is to produce the DNA or RNA strand that codes this protein and let bacteria or other cells produce it. As I already said in my other post, this is taking catalysis research far beyond what scientists thought they could ever do in their wildest dreams. |
Feet1st Send message Joined: 30 Dec 05 Posts: 1755 Credit: 4,690,520 RAC: 0 |
Christoph, thank you very much for the detailed information in a form that we can all digest (was that pun?). Dr. Baker has mentioned briefly in the past that in the back of his mind, an enzyme will be the solution to the increasing CO2 levels as well. Once you successfully develop such a catalyst, you probably incorporate it into a living cell such as a bateria where nature will automatically replicate it as long as a sufficient food supply remains available. The ultimate outcome might be that you sprinkle some bacteria here and there in the ocean and they absorb carbon, release (or "desorb") oxygen and then die and fall to the bottom much like organisms in nature already do. It's probably too early to find much reading material on the subject, but please post links to any additional material on current research findings and projects that are being investigated in this groundbreaking field. Add this signature to your EMail: Running Microsoft's "System Idle Process" will never help cure cancer, AIDS nor Alzheimer's. But running Rosetta@home just might! https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ |
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