Message boards : Number crunching : Predictor of the day!
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milw0rm Send message Joined: 10 Dec 05 Posts: 22 Credit: 6,212,738 RAC: 0 |
I was absolutely thrilled to see that my team has helped the Rosetta@home project enough to be chosen as the predictor of the day. I was hoping for this for a few months now as our output has gradually increased. This is very exciting! I am just wondering.. how does the predictor of the day relate to the top predictions, as seen on https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_top_predictions.php? Also, where can I see the actual structure which has the top prediction? It is no longer listed on https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rah_results.php?TeamID=1291. Thanks and best wishes to all! |
Nemesis Send message Joined: 12 Mar 06 Posts: 149 Credit: 21,395 RAC: 0 |
It's a random selection of the users that have profiles (or some such thing). The point is - it's random. Nemesis n. A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. |
Feet1st Send message Joined: 30 Dec 05 Posts: 1755 Credit: 4,690,520 RAC: 0 |
Correction, the "User of the day" is random. The predictor of the day comes out as they complete analysis of the submitted results and are able to publish those analysis (in the case of CASP results, I believe there were restrictions on what they could publish so far as energy levels etc.) The predictor of the day crunched the model that shows the most promise for correctly predicting the native structure. Dr. Baker referred to it as being like a lottery. The more tickets you hold when the call the numbers, the more likely you win. In the case of Rosetta, "tickets" correspond to the number of models you crunched for a given batch of tasks. So far as I know, you can only view you own structures. And even that only if you still have the .out file from the task. See the details here. Add this signature to your EMail: Running Microsoft's "System Idle Process" will never help cure cancer, AIDS nor Alzheimer's. But running Rosetta@home just might! https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ |
David Baker Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 705 Credit: 559,847 RAC: 0 |
I was absolutely thrilled to see that my team has helped the Rosetta@home project enough to be chosen as the predictor of the day. I was hoping for this for a few months now as our output has gradually increased. This is very exciting! Thanks and congratulations!! As Feet1st explained, you found the lowest energy structure for the indicated CASP7 work unit for CASP target 354. During CASP we experimented with a number of different strategies for each target; the different work units for the same target protein represent the different strategies. The participants acknowledged in the "top predictions" section are the people who found the lowest energy structures over all the different strategies (I can't tell whether your model was one of these because we haven't put the data together yet). Your result, like those of the other "top predictors" was important because it gave us important feedback on the strategy being tested. target 354 I think was one where the predictions are really good--your model may have been one of the top 5 models submitted! |
Nemesis Send message Joined: 12 Mar 06 Posts: 149 Credit: 21,395 RAC: 0 |
Correction, the "User of the day" is random. The predictor of the day comes out as they complete analysis of the submitted results and are able to publish those analysis (in the case of CASP results, I believe there were restrictions on what they could publish so far as energy levels etc.) Sorry! My bad. Good job - that one is really worth something. Nemesis n. A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. |
milw0rm Send message Joined: 10 Dec 05 Posts: 22 Credit: 6,212,738 RAC: 0 |
Does anyone have a time frame on how long it will take to find out how close our simulation is to the real protein? Will we have to wait until CASP 7 to find out? We are very excited to know, so that we can have a celebration party! ;) We recently passed 1 million results which was wonderful and now having a top prediction is like icing on the cake! Keep folding :) |
BennyRop Send message Joined: 17 Dec 05 Posts: 555 Credit: 140,800 RAC: 0 |
We're finding out how close we were to the native structure as the native structures are released to the public; but by Nov 26-30th, they'll all be released. That's the date of the CASP7 conference. http://predictioncenter.org/casp7/ And it says that near Halloween, Dr. David Baker may get an invitation to speak to a group that won't require bio-chem translators - about the prediction techniques we've been using. |
milw0rm Send message Joined: 10 Dec 05 Posts: 22 Credit: 6,212,738 RAC: 0 |
Thank you to everyone who has replied! Here is some more data on the protein: http://predictioncenter.org/casp7/targets/templates/t0354.doc.html http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/explore.do?structureId=2id1 http://spine.nesg.org:7000/gallery/jsp/ShowStructure.jsp?pdb_id=2id1 http://spine.nesg.org:7000/gallery/reports/CvR5_2id1/reports/fsvr/CvR5.html |
River~~ Send message Joined: 15 Dec 05 Posts: 761 Credit: 285,578 RAC: 0 |
Correction, the "User of the day" is random. The predictor of the day comes out as ... When you read someone's profile you get a chance to say "I like this profile" I always assumed this made some difference to that person's chances of being user of the day. If not, any idea what BOINC does with the feedback? Congrats to milw0rm on a superb result. You and your team are putting in a lot of effort for Rosetta and it is nice that that has paid off for you now. And even bigger congrats are due to your team for achieving a megecredit already - in the long run that makes more difference to the project than who gets the best prediction. R~~ |
proxima Send message Joined: 9 Dec 05 Posts: 44 Credit: 4,148,186 RAC: 0 |
A related question: Has there ever been a "Predictor of the day" who wasn't a member of any team? From a quick glance at the archive, it looks like all 'predictor of the day's have been members of a team - am I the only person who crunches independently? Of course, the 'predictor of the day's are more likely to be big-hitters, who perhaps are also more likely to be team members than independents. Alver Valley Software Ltd - Contributing ALL our spare computing power to BOINC, 24x365. |
Who? Send message Joined: 2 Apr 06 Posts: 213 Credit: 1,366,981 RAC: 0 |
That is awesome Dude! let's crunch more. sorry for fast double posting, hard time to keep the V8 under control, enter execute fasssssssst. |
Who? Send message Joined: 2 Apr 06 Posts: 213 Credit: 1,366,981 RAC: 0 |
That is awesome Dude! let's crunch more. |
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