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Message 16044 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:49:28 UTC

and ust in case this is the direct file download
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/rosetta_5.13_windows_intelx86.exe

but if your desperate to get crunching you may want to try using http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/download.htm a download manager.
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Message 16045 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:50:00 UTC - in response to Message 16042.  
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Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

From what i can tell on this side. This is a server prob. It must be timming out to restrick download.

I'm leaning that way myself, expecially since others are reporting it (to a limited extent). It would be easier all around if you could copy it from one puter and put it on the other. If I email it to you you'll have to unzip, then rename.

You can email me at [deleted]. How familiar are you with this operation. Do you need full instructions?

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Message 16046 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:51:41 UTC - in response to Message 16039.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.
no no no I just tried predictor to see if it work and it does but no rosetta yet.


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Message 16047 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 13:56:50 UTC - in response to Message 16045.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

From what i can tell on this side. This is a server prob. It must be timming out to restrick download.

I'm leaning that way myself, expecially since others are reporting it (to a limited extent). It would be easier all around if you could copy it from one puter and put it on the other. If I email it to you you'll have to unzip, then rename.

You can email me at mmciastro at gmail dot com. How familiar are you with this operation. Do you need full instructions?

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Perfect just sent you a email if you dont get it let me know.


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Message 16048 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 14:14:31 UTC - in response to Message 16047.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

From what i can tell on this side. This is a server prob. It must be timming out to restrick download.

I'm leaning that way myself, expecially since others are reporting it (to a limited extent). It would be easier all around if you could copy it from one puter and put it on the other. If I email it to you you'll have to unzip, then rename.

You can email me at mmciastro at gmail dot com. How familiar are you with this operation. Do you need full instructions?

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Perfect just sent you a email if you dont get it let me know.

Just received your email i'll try to attach to project and let you knoe. just have to remane the file to eze right?


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Message 16049 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 14:18:11 UTC - in response to Message 16048.  
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[quote][quote][quote]Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

. just have to remane the file to eze right?

Unzip it, it should be 7,152K in size, change the .txt to .exe. NOT eze. move to boinc.bakerlab.org folder
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Message 16050 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 14:20:26 UTC - in response to Message 16049.  

[quote][quote][quote]Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

. just have to remane the file to eze right?

Unzip it, it should be 7.152K in size, change the .txt to .exe. NOT eze. move to boinc.bakerlab.org folder

lol ok man no prob i've been working on this so long that i can't type anymore.

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Message 16051 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 14:22:46 UTC - in response to Message 16049.  

[quote][quote][quote]Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

. just have to remane the file to eze right?

Unzip it, it should be 7,152K in size, change the .txt to .exe. NOT eze. move to boinc.bakerlab.org folder
Will have to waite a little server not sending the project .


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Message 16058 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 15:28:54 UTC - in response to Message 16049.  

[quote][quote][quote]Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.

. just have to remane the file to eze right?

Unzip it, it should be 7,152K in size, change the .txt to .exe. NOT eze. move to boinc.bakerlab.org folder
Youre the nman Tony it's working.
Cool now you can go to the race an let me know how it finish because i can't get it here.
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Message 16060 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 15:32:03 UTC - in response to Message 16058.  

[Youre the nman Tony it's working.
Cool now you can go to the race an let me know how it finish because i can't get it here.
-:)

<wiping sweat from brow> man I was worried, that some little error was going to creep in and make this not work. Glad to hear it, now if Rosetta can just figure out why they're dropping connections to people in your condition, we won't have to do this for every new app that comes out.

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Message 16061 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 15:35:35 UTC - in response to Message 16060.  

[Youre the nman Tony it's working.
Cool now you can go to the race an let me know how it finish because i can't get it here.
-:)

<wiping sweat from brow> man I was worried, that some little error was going to creep in and make this not work. Glad to hear it, now if Rosetta can just figure out why they're dropping connections to people in your condition, we won't have to do this for every new app that comes out.

tony

lolllll i hope you had fun because i did.lol

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Message 16076 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 17:18:24 UTC

Thanks for the link to manually download the file(rosetta_5.13_i686-pc-linux-gnu). I tried downloading the file with opera. Unfortunately it dies at exactly the same point (actual size of incomplete file is 9,293,312). This is exactly the size downloaded using boinc. The file is supposed to be 9,598,436 correct?

Ralph has also tried to download today. I'm getting work units but the file rosetta_beta_5.13_i686-pc-linux-gnu is dying at 96.82% 8.86/9.15. Actual file size for this is 9,293,547. (note it is named beta_5.13, the one for rosetta isn't beta). Otherwise the behavior and error messages are exactly the same.

I'll keep an eye on this thread, but I'm going to stick with world grid for now. I can't think of what it could be on my end that could cause this, but I'm not a networking guru either. I may try lhc again in the near future to see if I still have the problem there as well, but my poor dial-up connection has had enough of a work out for the time being :)

Anyway if my problem is not related to jean-paul's, after all, I'm sorry for confusing the issue.
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Message 16081 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 18:34:52 UTC

Perhaps your ISP is trying to "protect" you by halting the download of any file containing a suspicious string of bytes. These strings are from nasty programs, but there are now so many of them that sometimes one of them will be in an innocent program (a false positive). The download would be stopped at the point where the string is.

If this is the case, it may be possible to turn the "protection" on and off. Many ISPs will have an "account management" section on their website.
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Message 16117 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 0:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 16087.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.
no no no I just tried predictor to see if it work and it does but no rosetta yet.


This could also be a result of the load on the Rosetta server. This always happens for a while after a new software release. Right now we have just released a new application version, a lot of new work unit types, and a lot of new people are attaching. It could be that the server connections are timing out after a certain period of time. How fast is your connection?

This is been going on for 2 week man i dont think this is tha cause

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Message 16123 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 1:16:18 UTC
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Mod9, he IS working again, I emailed him the Rosetta app, and he used that. He could download the app from other projects, but no matter when he tried or how (either manually downloading from site, or automatically during attachment), he couldn't get the app file downloaded from Rosetta. He can download all the other stuff from Rosetta, but not the LARGE file. He's was getting connection dropped or cut off. There are a few reports of NO APP file downloading. I am leaning toward the problem being on Rosettas server/file handler end. Probably in how it negotiates a transaction, some time limit or something.

During overloaded connections you'd see 400, 500, 106, and 182 errors reported. This didn't occur for JP.
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Message 16145 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 8:10:23 UTC - in response to Message 16120.  

Or, you say it's working OK on one of your puters, you can copy it from the working one, and paste it to the other.
no no no I just tried predictor to see if it work and it does but no rosetta yet.


This could also be a result of the load on the Rosetta server. This always happens for a while after a new software release. Right now we have just released a new application version, a lot of new work unit types, and a lot of new people are attaching. It could be that the server connections are timing out after a certain period of time. How fast is your connection?

This is been going on for 2 week man i dont think this is tha cause

Well in the last two weeks, there have been 4 software releases. There have also been at least 6 different kind of work units. It takes about 4 days for the servers to normalize after a software release.

But lets see if we can get you going another way. If I understand all this correctly you have another system that is running Rosetta 5.13. If that is the case you can put a copy of that application exe in the BOINC files folder on your system as others have described and that will get it going. But that is just a patch for the communications issue. For some reason BOINC is timing out. While I have seen this before, it is not a common problem, and it is usually one of three things, something at the ISP, something in the communications settings on the computer, or the server timing out on slower connections when it is busy.

Since you have loaded applications from other project we will assume it is not your computer. That leaves the Rosetta server, and your ISP. At present I am only aware of three people having similar issues. This makes me think it is something related to the ISP. It could be a file size limit, or a connection time issue. Connection time would be related to speed.

What I would like to do is get you going somehow and see if you have any problems with some of the larger Work units currently being sent out. I know the smaller ones were not a problem for you. Did you have any luck getting the application via e-mail?


Yes thanks I am up and running now. Thanks to Tony. As for the speed,i don't think this is the issue. I have a DSL an able to D/L large files from other programs AKA peer to peer. For now i am ok but i would like to be inform if you guys fine the prob. Thanks again for all the help,
Your's truly JP.
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Message 16958 - Posted: 24 May 2006, 9:14:43 UTC - in response to Message 16123.  

Mod9, he IS working again, I emailed him the Rosetta app, and he used that. He could download the app from other projects, but no matter when he tried or how (either manually downloading from site, or automatically during attachment), he couldn't get the app file downloaded from Rosetta. He can download all the other stuff from Rosetta, but not the LARGE file. He's was getting connection dropped or cut off. There are a few reports of NO APP file downloading. I am leaning toward the problem being on Rosettas server/file handler end. Probably in how it negotiates a transaction, some time limit or something.

During overloaded connections you'd see 400, 500, 106, and 182 errors reported. This didn't occur for JP.

Hey how are you hihi They have updated again and i still have the same prob. Could you send me the update via email plz? I also have the same pron whit seti so if you have that one too i would lukre to have if my email is able to receive 10 meg in one message. my email is jpaube at hotmail dot com. Thanks and i'm still working on the prob here. I'm sepose to get a new moden in a few days an see if this is going to help if not i'm going to change ISP. Hope u had fun at the race later JP.
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Message 16962 - Posted: 24 May 2006, 11:47:30 UTC

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MOD9 anyone figure why these people can't complete downloads yet? Have they or are they looking into it?

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Message 16986 - Posted: 24 May 2006, 15:31:05 UTC - in response to Message 16975.  

JP....You've got mail

MOD9 anyone figure why these people can't complete downloads yet? Have they or are they looking into it?

tony

The System administrator looked into it and he can't find any problem on the server side. From what he can tell the system is sending the files, but the client system does not "ack" the completed download.

From what I can see, it looks like the client is dropping the conection for some reason.

Hey MOD9 Mi ISP is sending a tech here Friday to check the connection and the modem to see if this is the cause. It's pozzeling everybody even senior tech at my ISP so i'll let you know if they fine something. -:) Have a nice day JP.

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Message 17141 - Posted: 26 May 2006, 15:56:16 UTC - in response to Message 16986.  

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MOD9 anyone figure why these people can't complete downloads yet? Have they or are they looking into it?

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The System administrator looked into it and he can't find any problem on the server side. From what he can tell the system is sending the files, but the client system does not "ack" the completed download.

From what I can see, it looks like the client is dropping the conection for some reason.

Hey MOD9 Mi ISP is sending a tech here Friday to check the connection and the modem to see if this is the cause. It's pozzeling everybody even senior tech at my ISP so i'll let you know if they fine something. -:) Have a nice day JP.

Ok my isp was here and all is ok on this side he came whit a laptop an we where able to get norton software ouver 10 mgs exe file but he was unable to get the rosetta exe. Everything here is ok but i srill cant get the exe from rosetta. For now it's ok because i had it email to me but if there is another update i will eather have to stop the priject or get it emailed to me again. BTW he was not on my network but he was connected in the modem. Later JP.

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