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[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,633,537 RAC: 7,232 |
The Server status page now says there is work, so you know as much about it as anyone (which isn't much). A message about situation from admins is welcome |
dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,664,803 RAC: 11,191 |
I think there might be a bug. The server status page regularly says "Tasks ready to send: 8086" - it's often exactly 8086 tasks, whilst I'm constantly getting "No work sent" in the logs. So I wonder if that's actually 0 tasks and they're either stuck, or it's an offset. I'm switching to other projects in the mean-time. |
Evil Penguin Send message Joined: 10 Jun 08 Posts: 5 Credit: 10,168,989 RAC: 0 |
Not receiving work either. Hopefully this is resolved soon. |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
I don't think there is anything to resolve. They have more crunchers than work. That is great. The scientists can get their stuff done in a timely manner. On the other hand, if you need to keep your room warm in the winter, there are plenty of other projects. |
dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,664,803 RAC: 11,191 |
It's back to 8086 tasks to send but in reality there's no work available. Are those tasks wrongly configured or is it a website/calculation error? |
shanen Send message Joined: 16 Apr 14 Posts: 195 Credit: 12,662,308 RAC: 0 |
I don't think there is anything to resolve. They have more crunchers than work. That is great. The scientists can get their stuff done in a timely manner. I actually suspect there is some manual step involved and there is no one around to do it most of the time. Or no one who cares that much. If it were managed on a reasonable basis, then they would have enough low priority projects to run the rest of the time rather than go spastic (the way it's been running for the last few months). I was hoping to earn 10 million points, but maybe the project will die of neglect before that time. (Am I hoping to trade the 10 million points for a boxtop?) #1 Freedom = (Meaningful - Constrained) Choice{5} != (Beer^3 | Speech) |
Link Send message Joined: 4 May 07 Posts: 356 Credit: 382,349 RAC: 0 |
Just as a hint: an easy way to avoid running out of work when there are not many WUs available is setting the runtime to 24 hours. With that setting BOINC will crunch each WU 3 times longer than with the default setting. . |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,633,537 RAC: 7,232 |
I actually suspect there is some manual step involved and there is no one around to do it most of the time. Or no one who cares that much. +1 6 days without work. I think it's not difficult for admins to write a post just to say "Ok guys, we have problems on server" or "Ok guys, we are working on new app so we need to stop the queue". If you "follow" your volunteers, your volunteers follow you. |
Rainboinc Dash Send message Joined: 21 Jul 17 Posts: 4 Credit: 153,431,025 RAC: 42,566 |
My ponies are starving, not enough crunchy work units :( I was aiming to hit TOP50 this winter, but now I need to hold my horses.. or ponies. For all seriousness, I think there is a bug, or work unit generator is getting stuck or false information how many workunits needs to be created or is available. It can't be like suddenly there will be tens of thousands workunits available and then number is going towards 8086. And maybe staff is trying to fix it, but it happens over and over again. But still some news from staff would cheer cruncher up! |
dcdc Send message Joined: 3 Nov 05 Posts: 1832 Credit: 119,664,803 RAC: 11,191 |
Same here. I'm adding other projects to my machines which I've generally not done in the past because there was usually lots of work. It would be useful to know from someone involved in the project: * Is there sufficient compute capacity already, so the queue can be expected to be empty sometimes? * Is it that there is intermittent compute capacity required, so sometimes there won't be any work? That's fine for me - it's just useful to know. * Is the 8086 tasks remaining bug on the server page known about? thanks, D |
Bill F Send message Joined: 29 Jan 08 Posts: 44 Credit: 1,576,179 RAC: 1,158 |
Appears that there is new work in the bucket Bill F In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; There was no expiration date. |
New User Send message Joined: 8 Feb 19 Posts: 1 Credit: 6,616 RAC: 0 |
Joined Feb 8 /19 . Have never had a task to process . |
Bill F Send message Joined: 29 Jan 08 Posts: 44 Credit: 1,576,179 RAC: 1,158 |
What sort of system and OS are you running ? Are you an experienced User already working other projects ? Bill F In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; There was no expiration date. |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,633,537 RAC: 7,232 |
Still "got 0 new tasks" |
Admin Project administrator Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 4805 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
I'll ask around the lab if anyone is planning to submit jobs to the queue soon. There should still be some jobs getting queued up here and there from our public structure prediction server, Robetta. |
Trotador Send message Joined: 30 May 09 Posts: 108 Credit: 291,214,977 RAC: 0 |
It seems we face a weekend without work... |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2125 Credit: 41,249,734 RAC: 9,368 |
It seems we face a weekend without work... I was about to say the same thing. I've seen some (very) small bursts of tasks but by the time I checked the Server Status they were already all gone |
shanen Send message Joined: 16 Apr 14 Posts: 195 Credit: 12,662,308 RAC: 0 |
Gives the impression of a rather amateurish hour, eh? As I've said before, my main concern is that it taints the results. Any results reported out of Rosetta@home have to be replicated because it all feels like preliminary work. #1 Freedom = (Meaningful - Constrained) Choice{5} != (Beer^3 | Speech) |
Link Send message Joined: 4 May 07 Posts: 356 Credit: 382,349 RAC: 0 |
As I've said before, my main concern is that it taints the results. Any results reported out of Rosetta@home have to be replicated because it all feels like preliminary work. How exactly does the fact, that the project has not always enough work for everyone anything to do with the quality of the results? Apparently they got the amount of results they need for the current tasks and are not in hurry to release the next batch. That's their choise, we don't know why and I'm fine with that. The fact, that they don't generete more WUs than they need just to satisfy some people thinking only about their RAC, does not make it feel "like preliminary work", but quite the opposite. New work is available now btw. . |
4LG5zSZM7uiF1nVGZVqTRrjkXA6i Send message Joined: 7 Mar 10 Posts: 14 Credit: 111,252,570 RAC: 0 |
As I've said before, my main concern is that it taints the results. Any results reported out of Rosetta@home have to be replicated because it all feels like preliminary work. Best not to ask questions. They've had the same issue which really comes down to their system and how they use it, but want the scientists to change the project to fix the issues. It has been suggested that maybe this is not the project for them but yet they keep coming back. Best bet, just ignore what they have to say as none of it is based upon any facts. |
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