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Message 107323 - Posted: 15 Oct 2022, 0:15:53 UTC - in response to Message 107322.  

http://www.cosmologyathome.org/ works
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/home.php works too.
But then how do you get to the account page, that wants to go to https
I'll try making an account tomorrow through BOINC.
Someone needs to tell them their SSL is messed up
Nothing I do takes me to https, so everything is ok here. I tried the homepage and the account page by right clicking the project in Boinctasks. I also tried to go to my account after going to the homepage. Nothing used https and everything was ok. AFAIK there is no https anywhere, where are you getting it from?
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Message 107425 - Posted: 15 Oct 2022, 13:45:04 UTC - in response to Message 107323.  
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http://www.cosmologyathome.org/ works
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/home.php works too.
But then how do you get to the account page, that wants to go to https
I'll try making an account tomorrow through BOINC.
Someone needs to tell them their SSL is messed up
Nothing I do takes me to https, so everything is ok here. I tried the homepage and the account page by right clicking the project in Boinctasks. I also tried to go to my account after going to the homepage. Nothing used https and everything was ok. AFAIK there is no https anywhere, where are you getting it from?



That I don't know. HTTPS mode is not enabled in firefox.

This is enabled: Certificates
Query OCSP responder servers to confirm the current validity of certificates

In brave after I click on sign up it goes to here: https://www.cosmologyathome.org//create_account_form.php?next_url=

And that generates: This site can’t provide a secure connectionwww.cosmologyathome.org sent an invalid
response.
ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

But if I try to delete the s then it automatically inserts s

I tried from Bing default setttings and it goes to https to join even if you erase the s
In settings: Use secure DNS to specify how to lookup the network address for websites

By default, Microsoft Edge uses your current service provider. Alternate DNS providers may cause some sites to not be reachable.

Same thing in chrome. I switched the secure dns to google and that doesn't work.
So I don't know whats going on.

It's just the join and sign in that go to https
I'll try from BOINC

Can't connect via BOINC as new user or existing user. Get an error message.
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Message 107426 - Posted: 15 Oct 2022, 13:59:02 UTC - in response to Message 107425.  
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I think you can disable Upgrade connections to HTTPS at brave://settings/shields
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Message 107427 - Posted: 15 Oct 2022, 19:31:46 UTC - in response to Message 107426.  
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I think you can disable Upgrade connections to HTTPS at brave://settings/shields


That is already in off position (left side and grey)

But this is really odd. The link is http but yet if you try to go to it its converted to https without you doing anything. All my browsers do that.

hmm...there is something funky in their website.
I just manually copied and pasted the join link into a tab in chrome and I got that to load ok.

But I just tried the same thing with https://www.cosmologyathome.org//create_account_form.php?next_url= (and also removed the s but it was converted back to the s)
And I get a ssl protocol error

These are set to off:

Always use secure connections
Upgrade navigations to HTTPS and warn you before loading sites that don't support it
Use secure DNS
Determines how to connect to websites over a secure connection

(Again this is chrome)


Brave:

I copy this from the home page into another tab:
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/create_account_form.php

But it automatically converted to https even if i go back and delete the s and hit enter it goes right back to s
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Message 107428 - Posted: 15 Oct 2022, 19:33:04 UTC - in response to Message 107427.  

Do you have https everywhere extension installred?
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Message 107429 - Posted: 15 Oct 2022, 19:53:43 UTC - in response to Message 107428.  
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Do you have https everywhere extension installred?


No, never knew about that.
Also just tried to add via BOINC, it does not say no such user or whatever, it just says add project failed.

The log says:
10/15/2022 9:50:04 PM | | Fetching configuration file from http://www.cosmologyathome.org/get_project_config.php
10/15/2022 9:50:19 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
10/15/2022 9:50:20 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

How is this possible? Their page is all green status.

There is something goofy going on over there.
http to https without asking for it, can get any servers....
Serious gremlins.
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Message 107430 - Posted: 15 Oct 2022, 23:51:10 UTC - in response to Message 107427.  

[quote]But this is really odd. The link is http but yet if you try to go to it its converted to https without you doing anything. All my browsers do that.

hmm...there is something funky in their website.

There's nothing odd or funky about that -- the remote system is redirecting the http port to the https port.
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Message 107431 - Posted: 15 Oct 2022, 23:52:20 UTC - in response to Message 107430.  

It didn't redirect for me.
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Message 107433 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 0:32:48 UTC - in response to Message 107425.  
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That I don't know. HTTPS mode is not enabled in firefox.

This is enabled: Certificates
Query OCSP responder servers to confirm the current validity of certificates

In brave after I click on sign up it goes to here: https://www.cosmologyathome.org//create_account_form.php?next_url=

And that generates: This site can’t provide a secure connectionwww.cosmologyathome.org sent an invalid
response.
ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

But if I try to delete the s then it automatically inserts s

I tried from Bing default setttings and it goes to https to join even if you erase the s
In settings: Use secure DNS to specify how to lookup the network address for websites

By default, Microsoft Edge uses your current service provider. Alternate DNS providers may cause some sites to not be reachable.

Same thing in chrome. I switched the secure dns to google and that doesn't work.
So I don't know whats going on.

It's just the join and sign in that go to https
I'll try from BOINC

Can't connect via BOINC as new user or existing user. Get an error message.
Ouch, I'm glad I use Opera, it goes where I ask it to. Changing the address is going to make you get a file not found obviously.
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Message 107434 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 0:36:53 UTC - in response to Message 107433.  

I am using google's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 dns and do not use secure dns.
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Message 107435 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 0:44:33 UTC - in response to Message 107434.  
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I am using google's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 dns and do not use secure dns.
I'm just on whatever DNS my ISP gave me. I've never heard of "secure dns". And why do you use Google's instead of your ISP? Isn't it fastest to use the closest one?
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Message 107436 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 7:29:27 UTC - in response to Message 107435.  

I am using google's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 dns and do not use secure dns.
I'm just on whatever DNS my ISP gave me. I've never heard of "secure dns". And why do you use Google's instead of your ISP? Isn't it fastest to use the closest one?



Because in that browser I thought that my ISP was throwing things off so I changed to Google to see, but that did not make any difference.
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Message 107437 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 7:31:19 UTC - in response to Message 107430.  

[quote]But this is really odd. The link is http but yet if you try to go to it its converted to https without you doing anything. All my browsers do that.

hmm...there is something funky in their website.

There's nothing odd or funky about that -- the remote system is redirecting the http port to the https port.



What remote system?
If I say here to make it http and the project is also http, then why is it turning into https?
If things don't work here, then why via BOINC is it appearing to be the same issue?
Is there something here on the local system that got changed during an windows update or what happened?
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Message 107438 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 7:32:48 UTC - in response to Message 107433.  

That I don't know. HTTPS mode is not enabled in firefox.

This is enabled: Certificates
Query OCSP responder servers to confirm the current validity of certificates

In brave after I click on sign up it goes to here: https://www.cosmologyathome.org//create_account_form.php?next_url=

And that generates: This site can’t provide a secure connectionwww.cosmologyathome.org sent an invalid
response.
ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

But if I try to delete the s then it automatically inserts s

I tried from Bing default setttings and it goes to https to join even if you erase the s
In settings: Use secure DNS to specify how to lookup the network address for websites

By default, Microsoft Edge uses your current service provider. Alternate DNS providers may cause some sites to not be reachable.

Same thing in chrome. I switched the secure dns to google and that doesn't work.
So I don't know whats going on.

It's just the join and sign in that go to https
I'll try from BOINC

Can't connect via BOINC as new user or existing user. Get an error message.
Ouch, I'm glad I use Opera, it goes where I ask it to. Changing the address is going to make you get a file not found obviously.


That was the browser I could not think of last night.
I used to use that, but then some websites used to hate that browser.
It's weird how some websites refuse to display everything or work until you switch to a different browser.
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Message 107439 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 7:40:36 UTC
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I checked the settings for DNS in firefox.
It's on use system settings.
All other fields are blank.

Chrome is back with current service provider for DNS
Secure DNS is on with Edge also set to current ISP
Brave is standard protection and secure DNS via ISP

Installed opera and the same thing happens there.
ssl protocol error.
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Message 107440 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 7:49:17 UTC - in response to Message 107437.  

What remote system?
If I say here to make it http and the project is also http, then why is it turning into https?
If things don't work here, then why via BOINC is it appearing to be the same issue?
Is there something here on the local system that got changed during an windows update or what happened?
Not sure, I have pretty much the latest versions of Windows 11 here. Only one of machines has TPM running, so only that one has the very latest version, the others are a couple behind. But I just tried Cosmology on the TPM one and it worked fine.
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Message 107441 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 7:50:21 UTC - in response to Message 107438.  

That was the browser I could not think of last night.
I used to use that, but then some websites used to hate that browser.
It's weird how some websites refuse to display everything or work until you switch to a different browser.
Yes, Opera is rubbish at new fancy stuff on websites. Sometimes I can be bothered reporting a site that doesn't work. Sometimes I just use Edge.
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Message 107442 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 7:51:43 UTC - in response to Message 107439.  
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I checked the settings for DNS in firefox.
It's on use system settings.
All other fields are blank.

Chrome is back with current service provider for DNS
Secure DNS is on with Edge also set to current ISP
Brave is standard protection and secure DNS via ISP

Installed opera and the same thing happens there.
ssl protocol error.
So if in Opera you go to this link, http://www.cosmologyathome.org/ , what do you get? And what does the address bar show? Has it changed to https?

If I manually add the s in Opera, I don't get your error message, instead I just get "This site can’t be reached, www.cosmologyathome.org unexpectedly closed the connection."
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Message 107443 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 13:23:04 UTC - in response to Message 107425.  

That I don't know. HTTPS mode is not enabled in firefox.


It is enabled in mine. When I select "Account" it takes me here:

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/home.php

And the page I am typing this on is:

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_reply.php?thread=6893&post=107425&no_quote=1#input

I am running firefox-102.3.0-6.el8_6.x86_64 that is the latest Firefox ESL release for my OS distribution:

Red Hat Enterprise Linux release 8.6 (Ootpa)
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Message 107444 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 15:31:25 UTC - in response to Message 107442.  

I checked the settings for DNS in firefox.
It's on use system settings.
All other fields are blank.

Chrome is back with current service provider for DNS
Secure DNS is on with Edge also set to current ISP
Brave is standard protection and secure DNS via ISP

Installed opera and the same thing happens there.
ssl protocol error.
So if in Opera you go to this link, http://www.cosmologyathome.org/ , what do you get? And what does the address bar show? Has it changed to https?

If I manually add the s in Opera, I don't get your error message, instead I just get "This site can’t be reached, www.cosmologyathome.org unexpectedly closed the connection."



Your missing what I said last night.
The main page and all other pages except for login and sign up work fine.
Well also Your Account page.

Basically anything that requires you to login goes bad.
I think the login pages are https and will not allow http?
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