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Message 112538 - Posted: 14 Apr 2025, 17:12:18 UTC - in response to Message 112519.  

thank you, that helped me!
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Message 112539 - Posted: 15 Apr 2025, 0:29:50 UTC - in response to Message 112535.  

What I can't/didn't see is the validators going down at all this week - so no-one had to wait for them to come back either

I may have got carried away with things that might have been fixed two weeks ago, but for the 2nd week running the boinc-process server kept running from Wednesday through Friday last week too.
It's a relatively small thing, but that's one fewer annoyance each week.

On the other hand, for the first time in a long time, I’m completely out of work :-(

I see you run the same live projects as me,
The PCs I run remotely allow tasks from all projects and run pretty low on Rosetta most of the time. Lots of WCG tasks to run down each time I visit.
My home PC and laptop only run Rosetta and I keep expecting them to run out, but not only don't they run out, they seem to hold near-full caches too.
I've given up trying to understand why. I just roll with it because they do better on their own than I manage by messing around with them all the time.
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Message 112540 - Posted: 15 Apr 2025, 10:17:34 UTC

Well that's different- the download server (boinc-files.bakerlab.org) is showing on the Server Status page as not running at the moment.
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Message 112541 - Posted: 15 Apr 2025, 10:39:44 UTC - in response to Message 112540.  

Well that's different- the download server (boinc-files.bakerlab.org) is showing on the Server Status page as not running at the moment.

I wonder when they'll notice.

My kiss-of-death rule applies, obviously
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Message 112542 - Posted: 15 Apr 2025, 12:37:49 UTC - in response to Message 112540.  

Well that's different- the download server (boinc-files.bakerlab.org) is showing on the Server Status page as not running at the moment.


It’s back up now but that might explain why there are currently 1947 waiting to download - I’ve not seen it that high in quite a while.
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Message 112543 - Posted: 15 Apr 2025, 17:00:06 UTC - in response to Message 112541.  

Well that's different- the download server (boinc-files.bakerlab.org) is showing on the Server Status page as not running at the moment.

I wonder when they'll notice.

My kiss-of-death rule applies, obviously

Blimey, it worked about 2hrs later.
And In Progress tasks have gone up by ~40k tasks since too.
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Message 112544 - Posted: 15 Apr 2025, 19:55:45 UTC

Ever since they got their act together things have been working just fine on my end.
Finally can let the computer just do its thing and don't have to check if the project is working or not.
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Message 112545 - Posted: 15 Apr 2025, 20:30:43 UTC - in response to Message 112536.  



I have not had any Rosetta tasks for over a week. And not very many before that.

I'm taking your advice and will investigate Denis@home..

In addition to Rosetta, I'm already running Milky Way, Einstein, Asteroids and WCG. SETI is done, SkyNet is done. I've given up on SiDock but still holding out hope for Universe.

S.Gaber


Universe at Home has died after it's principle researcher died.

It's R.I.P.
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Message 112546 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 0:46:19 UTC
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Cosmology@Home has been unreachable since January 8, 2004. No reason given why.

boinc.thesonntags.com has been unreachable for months. Reason given was a leak in the wall of the basement room holding the server.
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Message 112547 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 0:58:54 UTC - in response to Message 112539.  
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=edit==
The PCs I run remotely allow tasks from all projects and run pretty low on Rosetta most of the time. Lots of WCG tasks to run down each time I visit.
My home PC and laptop only run Rosetta and I keep expecting them to run out, but not only don't they run out, they seem to hold near-full caches too.
I've given up trying to understand why. I just roll with it because they do better on their own than I manage by messing around with them all the time.


Sid,
If you are running Windows on those remote PC's you can probably get more downloads by running the following Windows script( its a .bat file). It is not displaying the backslash between C: and Program Files, nor between Files and BOINC!

Windows script to keep running updates on Rosetta at Home.
From https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_user.php?userid=412375 aka: kotenok2000

cd /d c:Program FilesBOINC
:loop
boinccmd.exe --project https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ update

TIMEOUT /T 600
goto loop
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Message 112548 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 1:05:21 UTC - in response to Message 112547.  

Anyone running Linux/Ubuntu can use this one running from within the terminal windows of the BOINC folder/sub-directory. It might not run if you are running a different Shell than the default Shell for Ubuntu.


watch -n 300 ./boinccmd --project https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ update
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Message 112549 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 2:02:15 UTC - in response to Message 112547.  

=edit==
The PCs I run remotely allow tasks from all projects and run pretty low on Rosetta most of the time. Lots of WCG tasks to run down each time I visit.
My home PC and laptop only run Rosetta and I keep expecting them to run out, but not only don't they run out, they seem to hold near-full caches too.
I've given up trying to understand why. I just roll with it because they do better on their own than I manage by messing around with them all the time.

Sid,
If you are running Windows on those remote PC's you can probably get more downloads by running the following Windows script( its a .bat file). It is not displaying the backslash between C: and Program Files, nor between Files and BOINC!

Windows script to keep running updates on Rosetta at Home.
From https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_user.php?userid=412375 aka: kotenok2000

cd /d c:Program FilesBOINC
:loop
boinccmd.exe --project https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ update

TIMEOUT /T 600
goto loop

Thanks. I get it, but I'm kind of ok with what they're all doing tbh.
It gives other projects a bit of a turn on my lesser PCs.
You can see from my sig that the vast majority of time is spent with Rosetta - and a fair part of the WCG credits come from 2 phones because Rosetta is quite rare on Android.

And I note tasks In Progress at Rosetta have risen another 10k since ~10hrs ago
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Message 112550 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 6:32:06 UTC

Tasks Ready to send is back to zero.
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Message 112551 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 13:05:21 UTC - in response to Message 112550.  
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Tasks Ready to send is back to zero.



We already scooped up over 150,000 tasks that are being processed.

Tasks ready to send 15
Tasks in progress 157006
Workunits waiting for validation 0
Workunits waiting for assimilation 1436

And from the home page: Successes last 24h: 171,275

So I guess someone has to go kick the server again...
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Message 112552 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 16:41:13 UTC - in response to Message 112546.  

Cosmology@Home has been unreachable since January 8, 2004. No reason given why.

boinc.thesonntags.com has been unreachable for months. Reason given was a leak in the wall of the basement room holding the server.

Cosmology is a DEAD PROJECT. The university abandoned the project around 2 years ago by gradually not renewing the SSL certificate and not fixing website issues.

thesontags / Collatz Conjecture is also a DEAD PROJECT. If my recollection is correct, Project owner moved to different part of the USA after having problems with his prior resident and never restarted the project.
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Message 112553 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 17:25:29 UTC - in response to Message 112552.  

Cosmology@Home has been unreachable since January 8, 2004. No reason given why.

boinc.thesonntags.com has been unreachable for months. Reason given was a leak in the wall of the basement room holding the server.

Cosmology is a DEAD PROJECT. The university abandoned the project around 2 years ago by gradually not renewing the SSL certificate and not fixing website issues.

thesontags / Collatz Conjecture is also a DEAD PROJECT. If my recollection is correct, Project owner moved to different part of the USA after having problems with his prior resident and never restarted the project.



RNA is dead even though BOINC lists it.
SiDock is working on getting a new target. They said this month or next they should be ready.
Right now there is no work.

You might want to explore DENIS@Home if you like medical stuff.
He's trying out a new beta version. It's been pretty steady.
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Message 112554 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 17:38:59 UTC - in response to Message 112536.  

I became "top 5% RAC" instead of the original "top 25% RAC", but I have not upgraded or introduced new hardware in any way. This is bad because it probably means some top computation contributors left the project due to system instability.
Many of the huge core count systems would be set and forget corporate systems- they attach them to the project to give them a workout before they go into production. If they notice they're not getting their workout, they'd probably just move them to another project with work- they're not going to spend the time trying to figure out what the problem is and how to work around it.


There are now 10 128+ CPU core/thread listed as the Top 10.

While many are running Microsoft Server. Not all of them.

Randy Stack an interesting mix of Hobbyist/Corporate.
I am a hobbyist.

If you sort by Total Credit, it is clear that most of the still active systems are probably hobbyist. And most are not high core count systems.

I expect to run completely out of Rosetta tasks overnight. I have about 8 hours of tasks that have not been started yet. I have turned on a bunch of "0" resource projects. I am hoping some of them will keep my (potentially) bored system busy.

WCG seems to be out of tasks.
Einstein at Home and Milkway both appear to have tasks available.
I think PrimeGrid will never run out of tasks. :)

Apparently CPU-based biology/medical projects are just not very active.

Respectfully,


You can always come over to Denis@home. He is running a cardiovascular electric signals study. He just started a new Beta project. He's got 53,000+ tasks waiting. They are fast tasks. 2 hrs run time. Credit is 45-100+ depending on the task. There is only 789 active systems right now.


I have not had any Rosetta tasks for over a week. And not very many before that.

I'm taking your advice and will investigate Denis@home..

In addition to Rosetta, I'm already running Milky Way, Einstein, Asteroids and WCG. SETI is done, SkyNet is done. I've given up on SiDock but still holding out hope for Universe.

S.Gaber


I signed onto Denis@Home but have not yet received any tasks. I also signed onto Folding, but I think I will not do that one and will stick to BOINC projects.

Besides, Denis is based at the University of Pennsylvania, where I got my BA. So I'll drink a highball at nightfall for good old Pennsylvania.

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Message 112555 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 21:29:13 UTC - in response to Message 112554.  

...

Besides, Denis is based at the University of Pennsylvania, where I got my BA. So I'll drink a highball at nightfall for good old Pennsylvania.

S. Gaber

No. The DENIS project is based in Spain, at the Universidad San Jorge (USJ)
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Message 112556 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 21:40:23 UTC - in response to Message 112554.  

Folks over at Denis are complaining about no new tasks. Dunno exactly what the problem is, but I suspect it's CloudFlare creating roadblocks all over the place. I currently have...3983 tasks queued up so I'm not having any problems, at least there.
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Message 112557 - Posted: 16 Apr 2025, 23:35:42 UTC - in response to Message 112551.  

Tasks Ready to send is back to zero.

We already scooped up over 150,000 tasks that are being processed.

Tasks ready to send 15
Tasks in progress 157006
Workunits waiting for validation 0
Workunits waiting for assimilation 1436

And from the home page: Successes last 24h: 171,275

So I guess someone has to go kick the server again...

I don't think the Ready to Send figure tells us much in isolation, unless it's a decent positive number.
In Progress is up to 160k - another 10k boost - so there must've been tasks coming through faster than completed tasks are returned, even if there's insufficient to leave us with a stock at any one point.
And Successes last 24hrs is up to 187k
That would seem to indicate to me we're doing alright atm, even if there's still a way to go
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