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Message 106092 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 13:58:15 UTC

Hi, I have a problem. I have had an account with Rosetta @ Home for a long time. i recently reinstalled boinc on my smartphone and i am not downloading any files. Universe and Einstein work fine, Rosetta doesn't. please help.
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Message 106093 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 14:06:49 UTC - in response to Message 106092.  
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I have installed it too and it gave me one task
Or do you mean that it gives tasks but doesn't download files?
database_357d5d93529_n_methyl.zip is a big file. 484 mb in size.
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Message 106094 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 15:43:34 UTC

The application does not give tasks. I have a lot of space on my memory card. I have Universe @ Home on my smartphone, which works well in the Boinc application.
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Message 106095 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 19:10:46 UTC - in response to Message 106092.  

Hi, I have a problem. I have had an account with Rosetta @ Home for a long time. i recently reinstalled boinc on my smartphone and i am not downloading any files. Universe and Einstein work fine, Rosetta doesn't. please help.



Didn't you ask this before in another section?
If it was you, I replied with what to check to make sure you system is capable of getting Python tasks.
Otherwise you get the hit and miss of 4.2 which is mostly miss.
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Message 106096 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 19:21:53 UTC - in response to Message 106090.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Folding@home_cores
I guess they have more programmers/money.
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Message 106097 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 19:22:45 UTC - in response to Message 106091.  

Will Python GPU run on AMD?

Why not?
Because AFAIK it's always been a Cuda project.
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Message 106098 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 19:23:48 UTC - in response to Message 106094.  

The application does not give tasks. I have a lot of space on my memory card. I have Universe @ Home on my smartphone, which works well in the Boinc application.


Universe is a plain project.
Rosetta is much more complex and they are running a program now that requires virtualization.
I looked ARM and virtualization up, you can do it.

The ARM virtualization extensions provide a hardware means for a hypervisor to virtualize the CPU, allowing for multiple OS to be run on the same system. Each physical CPU contains dual copies of its primary ID and affinity registers to allow a hypervisor to manipulate the values passed into a VM.

So you will have to find what that is exactly for your device and download it and then you have to go into your device profile to the details section and enable your account to get python virtualized tasks.
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Message 106099 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 19:24:18 UTC - in response to Message 106092.  

Hi, I have a problem. I have had an account with Rosetta @ Home for a long time. i recently reinstalled boinc on my smartphone and i am not downloading any files. Universe and Einstein work fine, Rosetta doesn't. please help.
Smartphones don't do VB Python tasks, which most of them are just now. My phones occasionally get 4.2 work, but not very often. Make sure you have the latest Boinc version - there have been SSL security problems stopping it contacting some servers.
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Message 106100 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 19:25:25 UTC - in response to Message 106098.  

The application does not give tasks. I have a lot of space on my memory card. I have Universe @ Home on my smartphone, which works well in the Boinc application.


Universe is a plain project.
Rosetta is much more complex and they are running a program now that requires virtualization.
I looked ARM and virtualization up, you can do it.

The ARM virtualization extensions provide a hardware means for a hypervisor to virtualize the CPU, allowing for multiple OS to be run on the same system. Each physical CPU contains dual copies of its primary ID and affinity registers to allow a hypervisor to manipulate the values passed into a VM.

So you will have to find what that is exactly for your device and download it and then you have to go into your device profile to the details section and enable your account to get python virtualized tasks.
Yikes, VB slows down a 24 core Ryzen 9 CPU, I dread to think what it would do to a little phone.
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Message 106101 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 19:58:29 UTC - in response to Message 106096.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Folding@home_cores
I guess they have more programmers/money.



You can't compare the two.
FAH is staffed way better than GPU and it is older and more mature of a program
It was designed for all devices.

GPU:
GPUGRID is a distributed computing project hosted by Pompeu Fabra University (a public funded university) and running on the Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing (BOINC) software platform. It performs full-atom molecular biology simulations that are designed to run on Nvidia's CUDA-compatible graphics processing units.

FAH:

Developer(s) Pande Laboratory, Sony, Nvidia, ATI Technologies, Joseph Coffland, Cauldron Development[1]
Initial release October 1, 2000; 21 years ago

Folding@home is currently based at Washington University in St. Louis (Private, so they can raise money and spend it without limitations) and led by Greg Bowman, a former student of Vijay Pande.

The project utilizes graphics processing units (GPUs), central processing units (CPUs), and ARM processors like those on the Raspberry Pi for distributed computing and scientific research.

So your really comparing apples and oranges while trying to call everything a pear.
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Message 106102 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 20:32:27 UTC - in response to Message 106101.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Folding@home_cores
I guess they have more programmers/money.
You can't compare the two.
FAH is staffed way better than GPU and it is older and more mature of a program
It was designed for all devices.

GPU:
GPUGRID is a distributed computing project hosted by Pompeu Fabra University (a public funded university) and running on the Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing (BOINC) software platform. It performs full-atom molecular biology simulations that are designed to run on Nvidia's CUDA-compatible graphics processing units.

FAH:

Developer(s) Pande Laboratory, Sony, Nvidia, ATI Technologies, Joseph Coffland, Cauldron Development[1]
Initial release October 1, 2000; 21 years ago

Folding@home is currently based at Washington University in St. Louis (Private, so they can raise money and spend it without limitations) and led by Greg Bowman, a former student of Vijay Pande.

The project utilizes graphics processing units (GPUs), central processing units (CPUs), and ARM processors like those on the Raspberry Pi for distributed computing and scientific research.

So your really comparing apples and oranges while trying to call everything a pear.
No, we're in agreement, FAH is a bigger organisation with more money behind it so has programmed for more chips.
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Message 106103 - Posted: 27 Apr 2022, 23:13:48 UTC - in response to Message 106101.  

Folding@home is currently based at Washington University in St. Louis (Private, so they can raise money and spend it without limitations) and led by Greg Bowman, a former student of Vijay Pande.

FYI, Prof. Bowman is moving to the University of Pennsylvania this summer.
https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=37813
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Message 106106 - Posted: 28 Apr 2022, 16:18:22 UTC - in response to Message 106100.  

I don't really understand. My smartphone Xiaomi Mi 9T pro worked under Rosetta @Home and I have probably 10,000 points there. Currently it is not getting any task. I'm using the Boinc app, so what can I do to get Rosetta to download tasks?
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Message 106107 - Posted: 28 Apr 2022, 16:23:39 UTC - in response to Message 106106.  
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Currently all 239861 workunits are already distributed to crunchers.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/server_status.php
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Message 106108 - Posted: 28 Apr 2022, 18:20:12 UTC - in response to Message 106106.  
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I don't really understand. My smartphone Xiaomi Mi 9T pro worked under Rosetta @Home and I have probably 10,000 points there. Currently it is not getting any task. I'm using the Boinc app, so what can I do to get Rosetta to download tasks?

Can you load VirtualBox? You needit for rosetta python.
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Message 106109 - Posted: 28 Apr 2022, 18:21:45 UTC - in response to Message 106108.  

I don't think there is virtualbox for android.
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Message 106111 - Posted: 28 Apr 2022, 19:25:51 UTC - in response to Message 106103.  

Folding@home is currently based at Washington University in St. Louis (Private, so they can raise money and spend it without limitations) and led by Greg Bowman, a former student of Vijay Pande.

FYI, Prof. Bowman is moving to the University of Pennsylvania this summer.
https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=37813


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Message 106112 - Posted: 28 Apr 2022, 19:30:48 UTC - in response to Message 106109.  

I don't think there is virtualbox for android.


https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=VMOS
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Message 106113 - Posted: 28 Apr 2022, 19:35:43 UTC - in response to Message 106106.  

I don't really understand. My smartphone Xiaomi Mi 9T pro worked under Rosetta @Home and I have probably 10,000 points there. Currently it is not getting any task. I'm using the Boinc app, so what can I do to get Rosetta to download tasks?



Your phone works the same as us PC users.
You got tasks when they were non virtualbox 4.2 plain jane tasks.
You could crunch those without anything extra.

This has changed. 4.2 is a thing of the past or very rare in having tasks and if there are tasks quite often they error out due to a bug in the code that the person did not check.

So now you need virtualization software that allows these special kinds of tasks to run on your computer and phone. Look up VMOS and read about it. It requires rooting your phone if you haven't done that already, but it does provide the virtualization environment to run these new python tasks in theory. The majority of us use PC's so we can only guess and read on the net (same as you) what works on a android phone.
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Message 106115 - Posted: 28 Apr 2022, 23:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 106113.  

Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately, I don't have root on my phone and won't do it, but I'll try to get it running on my PC. 😊
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