I think you can download osx version

Thanks, all. The High Sierra machine is my workshop station, crunches WUs 24/7 unless I'm in the shop (like now, sharpening an axe), so maybe I'll give that a shot. The other is my wife's desktop system. Not gunna mess too much with that one.

Best regards,
Tom C

And, while I was typing that, it downloaded 6 WUs. Murphy's Law!

Well Python Tasks in progress has finally cracked 20,000.
Which is only 4% of the compute resources that are (or were) available for Rosetta 4.20.

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Grant
Darwin NT

The number of jobs is also down considerably.
Total queued jobs: 1,649,208

It looks like they weeded out a lot of them, either because they were producing errors or they were of low scientific priority.
So they may be getting a bit more realistic, though they still have a way to go to improve their app.

This is their best hope.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=14930&postid=105000#105000
But they have to have someone on the job to do it.

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This is their best hope.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=14930&postid=105000#105000
But they have to have someone on the job to do it.

Who has the connection to the team?
Someone in touch with DEK?
He is the tech guru.

[quote]The number of jobs is also down considerably.
Total queued jobs: 1,649,208 [quote]

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Queued job is not so important as unsent tasks.
That is what tells us what is coming really soon.

Tom Coradeschi - for #4 - choose some other projects to keep your system busy while waiting for non VM tasks (if that is all you want)

What do you want to do? Math, Astro, Health?

Pretty sure this will have been answered before but I didn't find it on a quick search. With nothing available from my normal projects I downloaded 16 tasks to run on my Ryzen7 All are showing

Sun 27 Feb 2022 11:26:55 GMT | Rosetta@home | Task aaam-ABU-PHE_pp-mNMABU-AMACBEN2_13_2375631_2_0 postponed for 86400 seconds: Communication with VM Hypervisor failed.

Ubuntu 21.10, BOINC7.19.0 (Built from source about two weeks ago.) VB6.1 installed.

Queued job is not so important as unsent tasks.
That is what tells us what is coming really soon.

No, it is the opposite. Queued jobs are the total they have (that they are telling us about at any rate).
The unsent jobs are just the work buffer. If they have anything in the queue, then the buffer gets filled.

When the queued jobs go to zero, that is when we run out.
Though if you can't do the pythons, then you probably want to keep an eye on that part. I do both.
But it would be better if they showed the difference in the queue. That is probably what you are referring to.

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Tom Coradeschi - for #4 - choose some other projects to keep your system busy while waiting for non VM tasks (if that is all you want)

What do you want to do? Math, Astro, Health?

Yep - essentially what I was thinking with #3:-)

Well again, what are you looking for?

Lots of possibilities out there, a new one that has been mentioned that is not Vbox related is gene@home.
LHC@home for physics
Einstein for Gravity waves from black holes
SiDock (health related)
If you want to work your GPU's hard run Prime Grid.

Outside of BOINC some of us run folding at home.

Outside of BOINC some of us run folding at home.

A lot of people apparently avoid Folding because it uses its own client software. But I think it is probably the most innovative and useful project around.
It used to share that status with Rosetta in my estimation, but it is hard to justify that these days (for the work that they send to us at any rate).

I run both, usually using Folding on the GPU and BOINC on the CPU of any given machine. You just delete the CPU slot in Folding for that, and then reserve a core in BOINC for Folding on the GPU.
In fact, increasingly I am running the CPUs on Folding too. They don't get as many points as the GPU, but it is somewhat different science on smaller molecules (peptides) that appears to be quite important.

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Outside of BOINC some of us run folding at home.

A lot of people apparently avoid Folding because it uses its own client software. But I think it is probably the most innovative and useful project around.
It used to share that status with Rosetta in my estimation, but it is hard to justify that these days (for the work that they send to us at any rate).

I run both, usually using Folding on the GPU and BOINC on the CPU of any given machine. You just delete the CPU slot in Folding for that, and then reserve a core in BOINC for Folding on the GPU.
In fact, increasingly I am running the CPUs on Folding too. They don't get as many points as the GPU, but it is somewhat different science on smaller molecules (peptides) that appears to be quite important.

It's not about points to me. Its about advancing the science with the hope they can use it to fight whatever they are looking at. You don't get anything for points, just a status symbol among BOINC users.

Queued job is not so important as unsent tasks.
That is what tells us what is coming really soon.

No, it is the opposite. Queued jobs are the total they have (that they are telling us about at any rate).
The unsent jobs are just the work buffer. If they have anything in the queue, then the buffer gets filled.

When the queued jobs go to zero, that is when we run out.
Though if you can't do the pythons, then you probably want to keep an eye on that part. I do both.
But it would be better if they showed the difference in the queue. That is probably what you are referring to.

But is the queue shown on the page the real queue?
I would love to see the breakdown by task type vs some number.

It's not about points to me. Its about advancing the science with the hope they can use it to fight whatever they are looking at. You don't get anything for points, just a status symbol among BOINC users.

Certainly. But it is a little more subtle on Folding, since both GPUs and CPUs do the same sort of thing, molecular dynamics (MD). So it is often thought that since the GPUs are getting more points, they are more valuable. But that is not quite how it works, since they are doing different types of work on different types of molecules. It helps to see the task descriptions, which the researcher provides for every work unit at Folding. That is quite different than here, to make an obvious point.

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This is their best hope.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=14930&postid=105000#105000
But they have to have someone on the job to do it.

Who has the connection to the team?
Someone in touch with DEK?
He is the tech guru.

I have passed on those details from a PM sent to me.
The info was given in a very clear way, but I'm not certain if it's been acted upon or not.
I'll try to find my email and give a little nudge.

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But is the queue shown on the page the real queue?

Yes.

I would love to see the breakdown by task type vs some number.

Computing, Server status, Tasks by application. Unsent numbers.

But as far as the main page Total queued jobs is concerned, you just have to remember roughly what that number was before any Rosetta 4.20 are sent out to have an idea of just how many Rosetta 4.20 Tasks there are queued up to go out (when there are some to actually go out).

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Grant
Darwin NT

I have passed on those details from a PM sent to me.
The info was given in a very clear way, but I'm not certain if it's been acted upon or not.
I'll try to find my email and give a little nudge.

Well done. My little help: i wrote a message about "multiattach" on IPD, R@H, RosettaCommons twitter accounts.

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I have passed on those details from a PM sent to me.
The info was given in a very clear way, but I'm not certain if it's been acted upon or not.
I'll try to find my email and give a little nudge.

Well done. My little help: I wrote a message about "multiattach" on IPD, R@H, RosettaCommons twitter accounts.

I would've sent the message of 4th February, having been sent it on 3rd Feb...
...it's not looking good, is it.
All my VB tasks are failing at the download stage atm. I'm running nothing at all for anyone :(

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