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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
Since I'm using Gridcoin, I can't access that button, once I'm banned, I'm banned forever :-(In your Task list, click on your computer number. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
I get the odd one on my "good" i5. But I get them all like that on the other 6 computers, including a brand new Ryzen 9. Whatever the bug is, it's related to the computer in use. Or there are two bugs.You'll have to abort them unfortunately, unless anyone here has any tricks to get them to finish? I've had to abort loads recently. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
Download and install emfer Boinc Tasks program. Then you can look at CPU usage. If its 1% or around that, then the task is stuck in a loop and will not finish and will have to be aborted.+1. That program is amazing. I have 9 machines all displayed on one screen, very easy to watch what everything is doing, all colour coded, loads of information, I can control the whole lot very easily. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
Rosetta@home: Notice from serverWith LHC and Rosetta running on 24 cores, my 0.5TB SSD got too full, the only other thing on it is Fallout 4, a rather large computer game. So Boinc is demoted to the rust spinner, which unfortunately is making a little noise with write access once every second. ARGH!!! Boinc never listens to what I tell it to do! |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
I think SSD are actually now more reliable than HDDs, so get one if you can afford it, NVME preferably, 8 times faster again - you can get adapter cards if your motherboard doesn't have a connector. And I've bought 4TB Sonnics HDDs for not much more, check on Ebay. They are very good. I've used 7 of them, one was DOA, probably a clumsy postman, but they replaced it immediately, the others have worked flawlessly ever since.WTH? It needs 19 gigs of disk space? No freaking way! That's out of control! |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Download and install emfer Boinc Tasks program. Then you can look at CPU usage. If its 1% or around that, then the task is stuck in a loop and will not finish and will have to be aborted.+1. That program is amazing. I have 9 machines all displayed on one screen, very easy to watch what everything is doing, all colour coded, loads of information, I can control the whole lot very easily. Very good! I use it to monitor the progress and also the project update feature. Also i like the color coding. My main use for that program is to monitor RAM and CPU usage and project %. |
.clair. Send message Joined: 2 Jan 07 Posts: 274 Credit: 26,399,595 RAC: 0 |
Rosetta@home: Notice from server Been getting those messages for a while , here are some I copied, and the first is only ten minits after a reboot, even witn 200GB free , even rosetta got in on the act ------------------- 26/12/2021 16:20:28 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.14.2 for windows_x86_64 26/12/2021 16:20:28 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task 26/12/2021 16:20:28 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8 26/12/2021 16:20:28 | | Data directory: C:ProgramDataBOINC 26/12/2021 16:20:28 | | Running under account clair 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 3072MB, 3032MB available, 9472 GFLOPS peak) 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | CAL: ATI GPU 1: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 3072MB, 3032MB available, 9472 GFLOPS peak) 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (driver version 1084.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1084.4), 3072MB, 3032MB available, 9472 GFLOPS peak) 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 1: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (driver version 1084.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1084.4), 3072MB, 3032MB available, 9472 GFLOPS peak) 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Host name: KAMINSKI 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Processor: 48 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v2 @ 2.70GHz [Family 6 Model 62 Stepping 4] 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx vmx smx tm2 dca pbe fsgsbase smep 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00) 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Memory: 127.95 GB physical, 128.05 GB virtual 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Disk: 465.76 GB total, 226.80 GB free 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Local time is UTC +0 hours 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | No WSL found. 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | VirtualBox version: 5.2.8 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | Milkyway@Home | Found app_config.xml 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Config: use all coprocessors 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | Milkyway@Home | URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID 742885; resource share 100 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | Rosetta@home | URL https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 3279599; resource share 1 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | General prefs: from http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/ (last modified 28-Apr-2021 18:41:17) 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Host location: none 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | General prefs: using your defaults 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Reading preferences override file 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | Preferences: 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | max memory usage when active: 129710.24 MB 26/12/2021 16:20:30 | | max memory usage when idle: 131020.45 MB 26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | max disk usage: 350.78 GB 26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | max CPUs used: 38 26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager) 26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | Setting up project and slot directories 26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | Checking active tasks 26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | Setting up GUI RPC socket 26/12/2021 16:20:32 | | Checking presence of 52 project files 26/12/2021 16:21:10 Milkyway@Home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 26/12/2021 16:21:10 Milkyway@Home | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU 26/12/2021 16:30:01 Milkyway@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 26/12/2021 16:31:26 Rosetta@home | work fetch resumed by user 26/12/2021 16:31:26 Rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 26/12/2021 16:31:26 Rosetta@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU 26/12/2021 16:31:29 Rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 26/12/2021 16:31:29 Rosetta@home | No tasks sent 26/12/2021 16:31:29 Rosetta@home Message from server:Rosetta needs 1907.35MB more disk space.You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 1907.35 MB. 26/12/2021 16:31:29 Rosetta@home Message from server:rosetta python projects needs 19073.49MB more disk space.You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB. -------------------- and that is with - on the `Disk` tab used by boinc - 123.97GB free . available to BOINC - 226.19GB used by other programs - 114.99GB ------------------------------------- V Mem cut C = 134GB free Restart ------------------------------- O wot fun 09/01/2022 00:36:42 | Rosetta@home | Your app_config.xml file refers to an unknown application 'max_bitch'. Known applications: 'rosetta_python_projects', 'rosetta' --------------------------------- 11/01/2022 03:09:28 | Rosetta@home | Message from server: rosetta python projects needs 19073.49MB more disk space. You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB. -------------------------------------- 13/01/2022 10:52:12 | Rosetta@home | Message from server: rosetta python projects needs 19073.49MB more disk space. You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 19073.49 MB. ------------------------------------ Makes me think is it the server that is low on disk space not us ! |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
I have too many cores, the list fell off the screen. I now have a monitor above the other monitor (sat on a stereo speaker) so the list can fit in.Very good! I use it to monitor the progress and also the project update feature. Also i like the color coding.Download and install emfer Boinc Tasks program. Then you can look at CPU usage. If its 1% or around that, then the task is stuck in a loop and will not finish and will have to be aborted.+1. That program is amazing. I have 9 machines all displayed on one screen, very easy to watch what everything is doing, all colour coded, loads of information, I can control the whole lot very easily. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
Been getting those messages for a while , hereI got those when I moved Boinc to a larger drive. Apparently it couldn't find anywhere to put 2GB with 2TB free! Presumably some kind of overflow in the calculation came to 0 or a negative number. I believe I fixed it by increasing the limits in Boinc. From memory, I had it set to use 90% of disk space, and changed that to 99%. Just make everything more relaxed. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
I think SSD are actually now more reliable than HDDs, so get one if you can afford it, NVME preferably, 8 times faster again - you can get adapter cards if your motherboard doesn't have a connector. And I've bought 4TB Sonnics HDDs for not much more, check on Ebay. They are very good. I've used 7 of them, one was DOA, probably a clumsy postman, but they replaced it immediately, the others have worked flawlessly ever since.WTH? It needs 19 gigs of disk space? No freaking way! That's out of control! Can't use Ebay here in Belgium. All drives show up from China or the US. Would get hit with import fees which would make it just as expensive as here. I'll have to look around and maybe see if my Dutch friend who shops in Germany can find something less expensive. Onboard SSD is 100+. 1TB SSD is a bit less..60-70 range. HDD's are the most affordable. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
Can't use Ebay here in Belgium. All drives show up from China or the US. Would get hit with import fees which would make it just as expensive as here. I'll have to look around and maybe see if my Dutch friend who shops in Germany can find something less expensive. Onboard SSD is 100+. 1TB SSD is a bit less..60-70 range. HDD's are the most affordable.Why can you not buy on Ebay from the UK or France or Germany, or the Netherlands? Shouldn't cost much to post to you from there. Ah, the prices have increased, everything costs more recently. Stupid covid. The best I can see is a WD 4TB, the Sonnics ones have gone, maybe they went bust. Can you buy this? https://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/353557737108 |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Can't use Ebay here in Belgium. All drives show up from China or the US. Would get hit with import fees which would make it just as expensive as here. I'll have to look around and maybe see if my Dutch friend who shops in Germany can find something less expensive. Onboard SSD is 100+. 1TB SSD is a bit less..60-70 range. HDD's are the most affordable.Why can you not buy on Ebay from the UK or France or Germany, or the Netherlands? Shouldn't cost much to post to you from there. Way to much money. This is the most I would spend and its onboard vs internal. https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Internal-Security-SA2000M8-1000G/dp/B07VXC9QMH This would just be a BOINC drive and nothing else. But after putting out 160 for new RAM and now 100 for a drive, I'm done spending for BOINC for another 5 years or more. But does an onboard drive have to be a C: drive or can it be another? |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
Way to much money.I've started Gridcoin, it pays enough to get the hardware free. Now only the electricity has to be paid for. Your motherboard should let you have it as any drive. And Windows should let you change things too. It's more intelligent than it used to be. For example, if you start up your PC with Windows already on a SATA drive, and a blank brand new NVME on the motherboard, Windows will have C: for the old drive and nothing for the new one, then you call that whatever letter you want. My computer has "disk 0" as E: and "disk 1" as C:, simply due to which socket I plugged the two SATA drives into. Windows doesn't care, it boots from whatever has the OS on it. If your motherboard is using UEFI (which they have for almost 10 years), the booting is intelligent and you won't get "can't find boot drive" crap anymore. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
Way to much money.For a similar price there are 4TB Seagate rust spinners if you want the capacity: https://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/304205798631 |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
That has to be some kind of error in the tasks. It has settled down and I have 83 Gigs free again out of 208. So I think I should be able to go with a 500 Gig M.2 and be just fine since only BOINC will be on it. If Pythons consume more than 450 Gigs of drive then that is just absurd and those tasks should be deleted. BTW. 3 bombed... Name aaai-AGLY_pp-mNMPHE_pp-NMPHE-ACBEN2_2_2731360_1_0 Exit status -185 (0xFFFFFF47) ERR_RESULT_START Stderr output <core_client_version>7.16.20</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> Couldn't copy file: fwrite() failed</message> ]]> Name aaas-HPR-PHE_pp-SAR-mSUGA_pp_9_2430692_1_0 - same thing aagb-PHE_pp-mTIC-GPN-B2ALA_0_2688121_1_0 - same This made a diskfull error on ATLAS |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
Make sure it's nvme. There are (or were) some M2 (which is the connector) drives which were sata (electronically). They're about 8 times slower. Some makes of drive are quite a bit faster than others for a very similar price. Check the specs first. I'd have been fine on 500GB for Boinc. But only half that was available due to gaming. I've still not had a single task work on 6 of my 7 PCs. The other one does 99% of them correctly. Very fustrating. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Make sure it's nvme. There are (or were) some M2 (which is the connector) drives which were sata (electronically). They're about 8 times slower. That is very strange. We have given you every solution we know. But is it the GRC computers that are having trouble or in the clear computers? If its GRC, then that is the answer, it is scrambling the data. |
rkv_2401 Send message Joined: 11 Dec 19 Posts: 5 Credit: 1,232,418 RAC: 0 |
Thanks to everyone who pointed out that virtualization was disabled on my Ryzen 3600 machine. I enabled SVM mode and it has been working for a couple of days now. However, this wasn't an optimal solution for me as I would rather have this computer crunching SiDock/WCG and my 10th gen i5 desktop with 32GB of RAM working on these VBox jobs. In fact, I only enabled SVM mode on the Ryzen desktop because Rosetta kept sending me VBox tasks even after I'd informed them NOT to (with the toggle switch, as I'd posted earlier), and it kept getting WUs that always errored out and clogging up other BOINC projects. I couldn't understand why a machine with virtualization disabled can doggedly keep getting VBox jobs, but an i5 from 2020 supposedly does not have hardware support for virtualization instructions. I checked again on the Intel desktop, Virtualization is enabled in Windows, VT-d enabled in the BIOS. So I investigated further and eventually realized that turning off Hyper-V on the Intel desktop made the error go away. However, this didn't work for the Surface Pro 2 (which I deleted from my list of computers after a month of no credit, it was a duplicate entry anyway) as Hyper-V was already off. Anyway, I will now be devoting the i5 desktop purely to Rosetta@home and the Ryzen to share with other projects. TL;DR - Rosetta@home kept sending me VBox jobs even after being requested not to and annoyed me into finding a solution for my problem :) Error #1 - Virtualization was disabled on Ryzen desktop. Solution - Enabled SVM mode in BIOS, ensured Hyper-V was off. Error #2 - "VirtualBox jobs require hardware acceleration support. Your processor does not support the required instruction set" - on hardware that does support virtualization. (Intel 10th gen i5, 4th gen i5-4300U) Solution that worked for me : Turn off Hyper-V (worked on 10th gen i5, Hyper-V was already off on Surface Pro 2 and I haven't found a solution for it yet.) Other suggestion - the 'tasks' part used to have the last 20 tasks per computer up until some point last year. It was useful to determine the performance, runtime, etc. of a computer compared to another one. Now it disappears very quickly. Makes it difficult to debug why a task would have failed and also makes it harder to track the other parameters I've mentioned earlier. |
tullio Send message Joined: 10 May 20 Posts: 63 Credit: 630,125 RAC: 0 |
I have an Intel i5 9400F and it runs rosetta python on it without me making any change.Recently I could not connect neither Firefox nor Edge and I found someone had activated a proxi, I don't know how, I am the only user. I disactivated proxi and everything works on Windows 11. Was one of the frequent Microsoft updates to do it? Tullio |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 11,974 |
Since there are so few tasks getting done overall, I'm guessing I'm not alone by a longshot.Make sure it's nvme. There are (or were) some M2 (which is the connector) drives which were sata (electronically). They're about 8 times slower.That is very strange. I have 7 computers all on GRC. One is fine the others are not. I can't see GRC scrambling data, I'm basically just part of a team, where the team controls the settings like which type of tasks to do. My computers do not connect through GRC, they connect to projects like normal. All the project does is check every day what my RAC is on each project. But just to make sure, I will now connect a dodgy one directly without GRC, this one here, under my own private account, no gridcoin: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=6171676 I'll report back in half an hour when I see if they run ok or not. Although it seems to me since there are complaints in the VB log of access denied, that it's a file it can't get to for some reason, which must be a local problem to my machines or a programming error. |
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